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Re:Leaving China by photochemsyn on Sunday March 19, 2023 @11:46PM (#35227024)
I'm afraid my view is a bit more jaded - I think those storylines were manufactured for ulterior motives as part of an effort to sell a program to the American public that would significantly reduce the average standard of living while concentrating wealth in the hands of billionaires. They'd already seen the effects of NAFTA and with China, they were hungry for more of the same.

I don't believe the conversion of the industrial manufacturing heartland of the United States to a region now called 'The Rust Belt' was accidental or unplanned. Nor was the destruction of much of the West Coast garment and electronics manufacturing industries.

This has been a deliberately planned policy with a known outcome by its architects, and it's been going on for about four decades. See for example:

https://www.epi.org/blog/nafta-twenty-years-disaster/

> "By any measure, NAFTA and its sequels has been a major contributor to the rising inequality of incomes and wealth that Barack Obama bemoans in his speeches. Yet today—channeling Reagan, the Bushes and Clinton—the president proposes two more such trade deals: the Trans-Pacific Partnership with eleven Pacific Rim countries and a free trade agreement with Europe."

Re:Leaving China by roca on Monday March 20, 2023 @04:59AM (#35228937)
Lots of relatively rich countries are in the TPP, including my country, NZ. It has significant rules protecting labour and environmental conditions. It's fine.

From your link:

> The surplus with Mexico turned into a chronic deficit. And the economic dislocation in Mexico increased the the flow of undocumented workers into the United States.

So they're saying that jobs moving from the USA to Mexico increased the flow of Mexican workers to the USA? That makes no sense at all.

Re:Leaving China by photochemsyn on Monday March 20, 2023 @10:42AM (#35232199)
The other side of the NAFTA coin was that it allowed US agribusiness to dump products like corn in Mexico at below-market prices, driving many small-scale Mexican farmers into poverty. At that point, they could either work as low-paid maquiladores (the border factories etc.) in Mexico or become Mexican expats at significantly better wages in the US agriculture, construction, restaurant, hotel & golf course etc. sectors.

The neoliberal project in a nutshell involved the outsourcing of unionized well-paid domestic manufacturing jobs overseas, on one hand, and the import of cheap expat labor to fill jobs that couldn't be moved offshore, driving down labor costs and creating hundreds of new billionaires, who used their money to buy more politicians to lock in the programs and prevent any change.

Re:Leaving China by roca on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @01:49AM (#35242923)
I'm not an expert on Mexico but none of this has happened in NZ with the TPP.