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Re:Bitwarden PINs can be brute-forced by badrabbit on Sunday March 19, 2023 @01:45PM (#35221572)
Ugh..no it does not work that way.

You are thinking in hypotheticals like many developers do.

Most infostealer malware just exfiltratr your data and disappear before being detected do they can hit a lot of targets before commom av starts detecting them. People also accidentally disclose data, back it up on a usb drive and lose that drive, have their pc stolen,etc...

If you have keepass2 with a memory argon2 and a password/passphrase none of that is a concern.

Yes, the malware could also be a keylogger/RAT and you'd be screwed then. One the most important security mindsets to have is "perfection is the enemy of good", specific security controls exist to address specific threats/risk not to address arbitrary and and an unbounded number of possible threats.

Re:Bitwarden PINs can be brute-forced by forty on Sunday March 19, 2023 @01:53PM (#35221650)
I agree with the mindset and that's why I think it's good the data is still encrypted even if, as the author mentioned, they might as well have left the data in plaintext.

Sure entering a passphrase each time is better for security. But if the user chooses to set up a PIN instead, I feel the current behavior is reasonable.

Re:Bitwarden PINs can be brute-forced by badrabbit on Sunday March 19, 2023 @02:05PM (#35221766)
If it is not the default behavior then I agree with you.
Re:Bitwarden PINs can be brute-forced by aidenn0 on Sunday March 19, 2023 @02:20PM (#35221907)
I've been using bitwarden for years and didn't know this feature existed, so it at least wasn't the default in the past.
Re:Bitwarden PINs can be brute-forced by flxy on Sunday March 19, 2023 @03:58PM (#35222909)
This is not the default behaviour and it has to be enabled per client/platform. The first unlock after a reboot still requires the master password as well.
Re:Bitwarden PINs can be brute-forced by femto113 on Sunday March 19, 2023 @04:31PM (#35223237)
There really needs to be another standard class of vulnerability besides "physical access to the device" along the lines of "access to a copy of the on disk data". There are so many paths to this and some never required physical access or even an accidental exposure on the part of the user, it could be a breach of a provider (ala LastPass).