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Re:Unix legend Ken Thompson announces he's switching From ma... by noisy_boy on Sunday March 19, 2023 @12:30PM (#35220665)
By whatever mechanism the OS has to verify that you have the privilege. E.g. sudo. Not by raising a plethora of hurdles.
Re:Unix legend Ken Thompson announces he's switching From ma... by oefrha on Sunday March 19, 2023 @01:27PM (#35221370)
An admin password prompt is hardly a deterrence to people doing stupid things. A young physics PhD friend of mine fell victim to a tech support scam, happily installing whatever spyware “Apple Support” told her to install over phone. That was a few years ago. The average person is too easily social engineered into allowing anything.
Re:Unix legend Ken Thompson announces he's switching From ma... by wutbrodo on Sunday March 19, 2023 @01:37PM (#35221475)
Sure, I don't think either this[1] commenter or Ken Thompson were trying to say that the product category shouldn't exist. A computer is vastly overpowered for what the average user is capable of or interested in doing[2], which is why toy devices like iPads are so popular.

I interpreted both of their comments as claiming that the direction MacOS is taking is a poor fit for those who still get value from powerful, general-purpose computers (myself very much included! I occasionally have the misfortune of using Macs, but am much much happier on systems where I can dig as deep into its layers as I need to solve my problems or scratch my itches)

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/context?id=35219381

[2] Though I do think it's a minor tragedy that the increasing amount of guardrails has narrowed the opportunity for an inquisitive youngster to explore his computer's internals

Re:Unix legend Ken Thompson announces he's switching From ma... by unethical_ban on Sunday March 19, 2023 @03:10PM (#35222382)
At what point do we say "that's her own fault"? How do we evolve to be alert to threats if we just hide them away and take agency from individuals?
Re:Unix legend Ken Thompson announces he's switching From ma... by noisy_boy on Sunday March 19, 2023 @11:40PM (#35226988)
> The average person is too easily social engineered into allowing anything.

How many "average" users you know who use sudo? At some point, the software needs to acknowledge users who are saying "I know what I'm doing and the risks, just let me do it" i.e. sudo.

Re:Unix legend Ken Thompson announces he's switching From ma... by kergonath on Sunday March 19, 2023 @02:07PM (#35221790)
An admin check tells the OS that you are an admin, not that you know what the software does and that you are ok with CoolWallpapers logging all inputs.
Re:Unix legend Ken Thompson announces he's switching From ma... by noisy_boy on Sunday March 19, 2023 @11:41PM (#35227000)
It also tells the OS that I have root privilege and I should know what to do with that power, not babysit me.