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Re:How America Manufactures Poverty by refurb on Sunday March 19, 2023 @12:07AM (#35215938)
How is it that the United States, a country with a gross domestic product “larger than the combined economies of Japan, Germany, the United Kingdom, India, France, and Italy,” has a higher relative poverty rate than those other advanced democracies?

What does the size of the US economy have to do with the rate of relative poverty?

The fact questions like this are asked - questions that compare two unrelated measures - makes me think the analysis isn't all that rigorous.

Re:How America Manufactures Poverty by Spooky23 on Sunday March 19, 2023 @12:34AM (#35216072)
Your observation makes the point. We’re living in a nation almost drowning in wealth, yet many among us see no issue or feel no culpability in bettering the dreadful state of our neighbors.

As a society we like to cast moral failures to circumstance. It’s easy to roll your eyes at the trailer trash and ignore the reasons why those folks are where they are.

Re:How America Manufactures Poverty by tastyfreeze on Sunday March 19, 2023 @02:04AM (#35216449)
You are free to donate all the money you want to your neighbors.
Re:How America Manufactures Poverty by djrobstep on Sunday March 19, 2023 @02:46AM (#35216647)
Unfortunately poor people are not free to acquire the food they need or live in shelter without being violently attacked for doing so if they fail to pay money to property owners.

Poverty isn't voluntary - it's violently enforced at the point of a gun.

Re:How America Manufactures Poverty by kilpikaarna on Sunday March 19, 2023 @03:50AM (#35216924)
Good ol’ making systemic issues questions of personal morality
Re:How America Manufactures Poverty by Spooky23 on Sunday March 19, 2023 @03:44PM (#35222782)
Thank you for reinforcing the point! Let them eat cake.
Re:How America Manufactures Poverty by polygamous_bat on Sunday March 19, 2023 @12:31AM (#35216051)
> What does the size of the US economy have to do with the rate of relative poverty?

A larger economy roughly means that more value is created in that country. Combining that with a higher relative rate of poverty means that the extra value created is not captured in a similar proportion. How are those two unrelated metrics?

Re:How America Manufactures Poverty by refurb on Sunday March 19, 2023 @12:56AM (#35216172)
But it’s comparing the US economy to a bunch of smaller economies. You cant ignore population when it comes to “more value”.

Then it adds India, a poor country where the poor are much worse off than in the US.

Then it compares the size of the economies of that mish-mash of countries to relative poverty in the US.

So what exactly am i supposed to draw from this comparison?

Re:How America Manufactures Poverty by ngai_aku on Sunday March 19, 2023 @12:50AM (#35216149)
I see what you’re saying, but I don’t think the measures are completely unrelated. Would a per-capita adjustment drastically change the argument? Anyway, I think the point was to draw attention to just how large the pie really is before asking the principal question:

> Why do many of us seem to accept that the problem is one of scarcity—that there is simply not enough to go around in our very rich country?

to me, it seems like a question worth asking.

Re:How America Manufactures Poverty by notch898a on Sunday March 19, 2023 @01:12AM (#35216249)
It would be terrifying to find out the same reason that makes us the largest economy, also is the reason why we have so many in poverty.