People still use VB and Filemaker to make applications along with very complex Excel spreadsheets. It’s way more common than the general sentiment here implies.

In fact, I get handed stuff made with tools like these somewhat regularly in order to develop a web app. At some point they become unwieldy and limiting.

I think it’s wonderful that anyone with some technical curiosity can make useful applications with these.

Of course they have a lot of limitations. But that’s fine. They can call a software developer when they actually need one.