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Re:Russian aircraft collides into US unmanned system in inte... by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @02:24PM (#35156185)
Even during initial Putin's reign there was a period of relative non-interference in each other's spheres. If, and I am assuming a little bit here, you are suggesting that regular spy-vs-spy constitutes a proxy war, then we have always been at war.. with everyone.

Maybe the right question becomes: how would you define a proxy war then? I think our disagreement lies in a definition of a concept.

Re:Russian aircraft collides into US unmanned system in inte... by rbanffy on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @02:37PM (#35172758)
> then we have always been at war.. with everyone.

There is spy-vs-spy for getting information and there's spy-vs-spy with the intention of blocking the other country's interests. The first can be seen as merely defensive while the other is a bit more offensive.

For instance, stealing secrets can be seen as defensive, while covertly supporting fringe political groups is squarely on the offensive side.