Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome by Kazakh Authorities

Re:Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome b... by smcl on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @12:37PM (#35154243)

Yeah I had read that a good number of anti-war people had gone there both before and after mobilisation. In fact I was watching a video by the youtuber "nfkrz" (from Chelyabinsk, left after the invasion and now lives in Tbilisi) who made a really interesting point. You can still travel to the EU if you're a Russian passport holder, however you do still need to get a visa from the destination country's embassy inside Russia. So if you wanted no part in the war and made it across the border to Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Georgia or Armenia or wherever you are kinda stuck, you can't travel onwards to (say) Germany because that would mean returning to Russia and risking trouble especially if you were supposed to be mobilised.

Seems like a bit of a no-brainer to me - we should just allow Russians apply for EU/EEC country's visas outside Russia. If someone wants to not take part in a war, we should be making that easier for them as much as possible not harder or more dangerous :-/

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Re:Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome b... by 5e92cb50239222b on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @12:44PM (#35154352)

I have (had?) a lot of friends there, some of whom have emigrated permanently, some have moved here to Kazakhstan when Putin declared his "partial mobilization", and have returned when it was declared over (although it isn't over legally…) If you haven't spoken up publicly against the war or did anything else that might endanger you personally, it has been quite safe to return to the country for the past few months. Of course, this could change in a moment — when rumors of upcoming mobilization started, my friends had less than a day to leave the country safely before the border service started selectively checking documents against mobilization lists.

> Seems like a bit of a no-brainer to me - we should just allow Russians apply for EU/EEC country's visas outside Russia

I haven't seen this sentiment outside of the few remaining oppositional Russian news outlets yet. I guess politicians will do politicians' things, and chauvinism sells better than compassion.

https://t.me/svtvnews/25254

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Re:Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome b... by smcl on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @03:56PM (#35157415)

> chauvinism sells better than compassion.

I was trying to make sense of this sentence and only understood you were upset with me once I read my comment back. It looks like you’ve parsed what I said as “we should only issue visas to Russians who left” but I meant “we should simply issue visas who left”. The word “just” is overloaded and makes it a little ambiguous :)

I think only a really ignorant person would think someone who deserves to be punished because of their nationality or country of residence.

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