Meta to Layoff 10k Employees

Re:Meta to Layoff 10k Employees by lotsofpulp on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @10:04AM (#35151712)

The market is not comparing their potentials now, but the market used to feel their potentials were similar in 2010s. Sorry for the terrible graph, it’s the quickest market cap with all of them except Microsoft on it that I found.

http://www.innovationkm.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/image...

http://www.innovationkm.com/the-market-cap-of-faang-changes-...

Another way to think of it is in the 2010s, a potential employee may have ranked a job at any of those companies as having similar security, but there is probably a different feeling about that now.

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Re:Meta to Layoff 10k Employees by Closi on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @10:58AM (#35152512)

They aren't really in the same market though - so it's comparing apples and oranges.

I get comparing Meta against Google, but why would we compare Meta against Apple? They are fundamentally different businesses.

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Re:Meta to Layoff 10k Employees by lotsofpulp on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @11:55AM (#35153555)

The market compared their potential during the 2010s, because everyone was growing by leaps and bounds and the sky was the limit. There is clearly no reason to do that now.

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Re:Meta to Layoff 10k Employees by Closi on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @12:24PM (#35154016)

Plot the graph again but instead of comparing them to Apple and Netflix try comparing them to Johnson & Johnson and Porche.

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Re:Meta to Layoff 10k Employees by Closi on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @07:46AM (#35166750)

As a follow on point to my other reply comment on review, the comparable stock on that list is Google - and the graph probably shows that the market actually underestimated Meta's 'potential' compared to Google.

2010 Meta 'Potential' vs 2010 Google 'Potential' - c$50bn vs c$200bn

2022 Meta 'Potential' vs 2022 Google 'Potential' - c580bn vs c$800bn

Meta grew >10x across the period, while Google grew c4x

I don't personally buy that Market Cap = Potential, but you would be twice as rich if you invested in Meta according to that graph than if you invested in Google, and you would have also done better investing in Meta across that period than Apple according to the graph you sent across.

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Re:Meta to Layoff 10k Employees by lotsofpulp on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @09:56AM (#35168392)

You would have to take into account stock splits and dividends. According to DQDYJ total return calculator:

https://watch.dqydj.com/timeseries/stock-calculator/

From May 21, 2012 (when META went public) to now, here are the annual returns:

MSFT - 24.53%

AAPL - 22.99%

AMZN - 22.07%

GOOGL - 18.09%

META - 14.36%

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Re:Meta to Layoff 10k Employees by Closi on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @06:53PM (#35175813)

It wasn’t me who originally used market cap as a proxy for potential…

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