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Re:Audiophile forum debating which versions of memcpy had th... by benj111 on Monday March 13, 2023 @01:22PM (#35139029)
>desire on the societal level to paint anything which appeals mostly to women as "kooky," "overly emotional,". "illogical" and "unscientific"

Are you saying tarot cards are logical and scientific?

Fwiw, I associate them more with gypsies than women, so I guess I'm racist rather than sexist?

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Re:Audiophile forum debating which versions of memcpy had th... by AlecSchueler on Monday March 13, 2023 @01:33PM (#35139250)
Yes, I am. Here's a study about their use as projectives: https://www.academia.edu/442955/Tarot_As_a_Projective_Techni...

You can find a tonne of literature on the clinical use of projective. The famous rorsach test is based on the same psychological mechanism.

If your association between the cards and a specific ethnic group is what leads to you judging them as unscientific without first checking then there probably is a level of racism at play. That's nothing to be ashamed of, as everyone carries internalised racism (thanks society). As long as you can recognise it when it comes up in yourself like this and you do the work to combat it then you have nothing to worry about.

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Re:Audiophile forum debating which versions of memcpy had th... by benj111 on Monday March 13, 2023 @01:39PM (#35139370)
The difference between a rorsach test and a tarot reading is that rorsach tests aren't bound up with the idea that they can tell you the future.

How can you ethically give a tarot reading knowing that X% will understand it as a prediction of their future?

>If your association between the cards and a specific ethnic group is what leads to you judging them as unscientific

Why don't you apply the same nuance when deciding whether sexism is at play?

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Re:Audiophile forum debating which versions of memcpy had th... by AlecSchueler on Monday March 13, 2023 @01:46PM (#35139493)
You're bringing future telling into it which is something I've never mentioned or seen mentioned in the circles of the people who use them.

They're almost always used as tools for self reflection, which is supported by the science I linked to.

I've only seen fortune telling done on an entertainment basis or on television shows.

> Why don't you apply the same nuance when deciding whether sexism is at play?

Can you tell me how I could do this?

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Re:Audiophile forum debating which versions of memcpy had th... by benj111 on Monday March 13, 2023 @07:53PM (#35145059)
>You're bringing future telling into it which is something I've never mentioned or seen mentioned in the circles of the people who use them.

You keep trying to separate tarot reading as fortune telling/ entertainment and tarot reading as a legitimate tool. It may be both but you can't split the 2.

>I've only seen....

And I've only seen tarot cards used as a tool for fortune telling. Is my experience unique? Is my experience less valid than yours?

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