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Re:Lo-Fi ATC by FearNotDaniel on Monday March 13, 2023 @04:49AM (#35132879)
Cool, hope the poor site author is not deluged with too many requests from us HN nerds outside the US (I already put in a bid for Zurich and Geneva, if that saves on duplicate requests...)

I understand the feeds come from LiveATC, which has a FAQ answer explaining why UK feeds are legally forbidden [0]. Anyone happen to know why there are no German/Austrian airports on LiveATC [1], is it a similar legal issue?

[0] https://www.liveatc.net/faq/ [1] https://www.liveatc.net/feedindex.php?type=international-eu

Re:Lo-Fi ATC by tbjoern on Monday March 13, 2023 @05:22AM (#35133146)
According to wikipedia [0], ATC in Germany is subject to the Fernmeldegeheimnis [1]. It’s the same law that protects snail mail and other communications. Anyone who wants to even listen to ATC has to be certified [2], and then has to comply with that law.

[0] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flugfunk [1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernmeldegeheimnis [2] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprechfunkzeugnis_(Luftfahrt)

Re:Lo-Fi ATC by MandieD on Monday March 13, 2023 @05:59AM (#35133475)
One major exception is that you can listen to air band from a car if you're doing so in order to be able to retrieve a balloon, glider (sailplane) or other recreational aircraft.

(husband is a glider pilot who makes an "outside landing" every couple of years)

Re:Lo-Fi ATC by AdamN on Monday March 13, 2023 @05:18AM (#35133118)
It's also protected in Germany by Datenschutz I believe.