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Re:Using LLaMA with M1 Mac and Python 3.11 by superkuh on Sunday March 12, 2023 @01:26PM (#35123104)
Well, gpt3.5-turbo fails the turing test due to it's censorship and legal liability butt covering openai bolted on, so almost anything else is better. Now, compared to openai's gpt3 davinci (text-davinci-003) ... llama is much worse.
Re:Using LLaMA with M1 Mac and Python 3.11 by flangola7 on Sunday March 12, 2023 @03:47PM (#35125269)
I thought LLaMA outscored GPT-3
Re:Using LLaMA with M1 Mac and Python 3.11 by simonw on Sunday March 12, 2023 @03:57PM (#35125388)
GPT-3 is a very different model from GPT-3.5. My understanding is that they were comparing LLaMA's performance to benchmark scores published for the original GPT-3, which came out in 2020 and had not yet had instruction tuning, so was significantly harder to use.
Re:Using LLaMA with M1 Mac and Python 3.11 by flangola7 on Sunday March 12, 2023 @04:01PM (#35125448)
I know, that is why I said GPT-3 (Davinci) not GPT-3.5|ChatGPT.
Re:Using LLaMA with M1 Mac and Python 3.11 by simonw on Sunday March 12, 2023 @04:58PM (#35126186)
Da Vinci 002 and 003 are actually classified as GPT 3.5 by OpenAI: https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/gpt-3-5

ChatGPT is GPT-3.5 Turbo.

Re:Using LLaMA with M1 Mac and Python 3.11 by eshack94 on Sunday March 12, 2023 @07:42PM (#35128271)
Would you mind summarizing the difference between GPT 3.5 and GPT-3.5 Turbo? I'm not clear about that.
Re:Using LLaMA with M1 Mac and Python 3.11 by simonw on Sunday March 12, 2023 @11:57PM (#35130831)
GPT 3.5 is the instruction tuned modern GPT models, such as Da Vinci 002 and 003.

3.5 Turbo is the ChatGPT model: it's cheaper (1/10th the price), faster and has a bunch of extra RLHF training to make it work well as a safe and usable chatbot.

https://openai.com/blog/introducing-chatgpt-and-whisper-apis introduced the turbo model.

Re:Using LLaMA with M1 Mac and Python 3.11 by vletal on Sunday March 12, 2023 @04:00PM (#35125441)
Hard to measure these days. The training sets are so large they might contain leaks of test sets. Take these numbers with a grain of salt.
Re:Using LLaMA with M1 Mac and Python 3.11 by code51 on Sunday March 12, 2023 @04:54PM (#35126134)
Or... it could be that Chinchilla study has deficiencies in measuring capabilities of models maybe? Either that or your explanation. Frankly I don't think 13B is better than GPT-3 (text-davinci-001 which I think is not RLHF - but maybe better than base)
Re:Using LLaMA with M1 Mac and Python 3.11 by simonw on Sunday March 12, 2023 @05:03PM (#35126255)
text-davinci-001 is currently classed as "GPT 3.5" by OpenAI, and it did indeed have RLHF in the form of instruction tuning: https://openai.com/research/instruction-following

MY MISTAKE: 002 and 003 are 3.5, but 001 looks to have pre-dated the InstructGPT work.

Re:Using LLaMA with M1 Mac and Python 3.11 by nodemaker on Monday March 13, 2023 @09:30PM (#35146098)
I dont know why youre getting downvoted! There is nothing out there at the moment that is as authentic as text-davinci-003. I really hope its not taken away