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Re:Catholic group spent millions on app data that tracked ga... by Connor_Creegan on Thursday March 09, 2023 @02:45PM (#35085677)
The term "gay Catholic" masks the distinction between a Catholic who is merely same-sex attracted (absolutely nothing wrong with this, per se) and a "Catholic" who actively pursues sodomitic relationships and/or attempts to justify it as consistent with Catholic teaching on morals. During the AIDS crisis there was quite a lot of masking of this distinction, and quite a lot of outrage (among outsiders) over the fact that the Church would not condone the use of contraception as a prophylactic against HIV. Indeed, we often hear about the former meaning of the term "gay" as "mirthful" or "joyful", but between this meaning and the popular meaning at present, the term mostly denoted a person who was generally sexually-uninhibited or promiscuous, even a prostitute. There is plenty of data out there that would suggest that men pursuing sodomitic lifestyles enjoy many sexual partners, despite the bourgeois depiction of the "married" gay couple popular in the media. Condemning such lifestyles is entirely in line with what Catholics have historically believed about morals and moral instruction. Not sure why that is hard for people to grasp.
Re:Catholic group spent millions on app data that tracked ga... by tptacek on Thursday March 09, 2023 @03:36PM (#35086316)
I'm Catholic. I'm sure there are some Catholics that believe the stuff you're saying, just like there are some Baptists who are Westboro Baptists. Just to keep the categories clear.
Re:Catholic group spent millions on app data that tracked ga... by Connor_Creegan on Thursday March 09, 2023 @04:19PM (#35086876)
Crack open the Catechism once in a while.
Re:Catholic group spent millions on app data that tracked ga... by PuppyTailWags on Thursday March 09, 2023 @02:52PM (#35085748)
You're trying to excuse the way the Catholic church turned their backs on mass death and suffering within their communities by blaming the sufferers. This is the precise horrible truth that gay people were faced with during the AIDS crisis, when them and their peers were dying horrific death en masse and they were at the same time being ousted from their bible studies and refused to be given final rites on their deathbeds.

The church will watch gay people die on the street and spit on their graves like everyone else, and all the speech of forgiveness and compassion was actually a lie. Gay people aren't equal humans in their eyes. Like I said before: the only people supporting queer people were the queer people. The only thing they could do is love themselves, for the world was glad their deaths were painful, slow, and public.

Re:Catholic group spent millions on app data that tracked ga... by Connor_Creegan on Thursday March 09, 2023 @03:20PM (#35086128)
These instances of rejection of final rights - were perhaps some of these cases due to the fear of transmission prior to common understanding of the means of transmission? Same for the Bible studies?

Again with the term "queer", this masks the important distinction mentioned above, because its use presents certain actions as morally-neutral. Many of us view(ed) the AIDS crisis as being used as a justification for sinful actions. I'm sure you're familiar with the Stop the Church event (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_the_Church). It is rather obvious, based on who organized this event and others like it that they were opposed to actual teachings of the Church, such as its condemnation of sodomy, contraception (even as a prophylactic against contracting diseases) and even abortion.