Re:The privacy loophole in your doorbell
by jeremyjh on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @09:39PM
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Dude, it’s not complicated. If they have a warrant, they get what warrant says. How does Ring’s lawyer help you?
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Re:The privacy loophole in your doorbell
by asveikau on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @09:40PM
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Glad your world is very simple.
Point about Ring's lawyers (which we've seemingly gotten away from this deep into the thread) is you do not pay for them. You don't get to be involved in strategy either, which may not be in your interests. Getting the best thing for your interests may require paying a lot for a lawyer and a lot of stress.
Re:The privacy loophole in your doorbell
by pclmulqdq on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @10:38PM
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Ring doesn't craft minimally-responsive answers to subpoenas and warrants either. No big tech company does. That would take money (having a staff lawyer and some help to handle those is expensive), and they don't really care that much about your data.
When you own it, you can fight back to your heart's content.
And by the way, you do pay for Ring's lawyers if you use their product.
Re:The privacy loophole in your doorbell
by TedDoesntTalk on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @11:20PM
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> they don't really care that much about your data.
The most important point
If you're storing the data on site then they turn up with a warrant and take the hardware.
A subpoena for Ring is an order to produce data. A warrant for Joe's CCTV at 223 Acacia Avenue is permission to take the data.