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Re:Zero energy ready homes are coming by pmontra on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @03:52AM (#35066765)
> We need to build vertically and re-claim back the resources allocated for car centric design

There are many small towns in Europe surrounded by networks of even smaller towns and one or two house farms. There is nothing to claim back there: they've been like that since well before any European moved to the Americas. That was a way to be close to fields, when economy was mostly farmers and herders and people mostly walked or at best moved in animal powered carts.

Some people move from there to big cities now, some people move from big cities to there. Everybody has a car, it can't be helped. I think that people in big cities will end up with public transport and few cars, but people in small towns and in the fields or in the hills or mountains will keep having a car, maybe just use it less if it costs too much.

Re:Zero energy ready homes are coming by yurishimo on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @04:40AM (#35067027)
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Re:Zero energy ready homes are coming by rovolo on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @08:01PM (#35077018)
> Back in America, most people I knew lived and worked in the same general region/city. Perhaps this is a uniquely Dutch problem

This isn't a uniquely Dutch problem. The longest commute you mentioned:

Utrecht -> Eindhoven: 1 hr 4 min (92.2 km)

isn't unheard of in the US. These are the commutes for a cousin, and a friend's uncle:

Colorado Springs, CO -> Denver, CO: 1 hr 19 min (113.5 km)

New Britain, CT -> New York, NY: 2 hr 4 min (177.1 km)

These are memorable though because they are so long. Many of the people I know have far shorter commutes. For example, my mom would drive 30 min (21km). But, these long commutes definitely exist.

In 2019, 10% of US workers had a 1-way commute of over 1hr. (The average times for transit are quite high in the US, but 90% of commutes are by car so a large portion of that 10% are by car).

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publicatio...

In 2003, 8% of 1-way commutes were over 56 km.

https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML1006/ML100621425.pdf

Re:Zero energy ready homes are coming by yurishimo on Thursday March 09, 2023 @11:00AM (#35082648)
Sorry, I should have clarified. I'm American and grew up in the DFW area. I know long commutes are not unheard of in the US, but like you mentioned, it is pretty rare for someone to commute that far long term. Generally, I think most people might commute for a year or two and then tend to relocate closer unless they only need to visit the office every so often instead of every single day.

The Northeast US is also an outlier because they have commuter rail that can reliably connect places like DC to Baltimore or NYC to Philly.