France comes to standstill livid workers protest plan to increase retirement age

Re:France comes to standstill livid workers protest plan to ... by deepsun on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @12:39AM (#35065632)

Hmm, sounds like forbidding pensions would fix that (make older people rely on their kids).

Cheap labor is no more, especially in the age of highly specialized jobs requiring education (manual labor is greatly automated now, especially in agriculture, compared to 100 years ago).

How else would we incentivise it? Money payouts on birth don't work -- only poor people would make good use of it, middle class would see the payouts too small for them anyway.

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Re:France comes to standstill livid workers protest plan to ... by tfourb on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @12:58AM (#35065759)

Depends on the payout. I’m decidedly middle class, as are practically all my friends, my large family would probably qualify as „rich“, but I and everyone I know are still weary of the financial burden of having kids. Although my personal theory is that it is not so much the cost, but the lost income potential and career opportunities for women that keeps people from having (more) kids.

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Re:France comes to standstill livid workers protest plan to ... by illiarian on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @01:32AM (#35065936)

> Hmm, sounds like forbidding pensions would fix that (make older people rely on their kids).

Then instead of having kids people will work on saving money for the old age.

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Re:France comes to standstill livid workers protest plan to ... by deepsun on Thursday March 09, 2023 @02:23PM (#35085439)

Again speaking for the devil, historically it was solved by inability to reliably save money.

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