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Re:France comes to standstill livid workers protest plan to ... by jtr1 on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @07:51PM (#35063706)
1. At least in the US, contributions to social security stop once you hit 160k, making it a regressive tax. Raise that cap and like magic, the system is solvent. 2. Growing home prices come from a lack of supply. And you’ve completely flattened an entire generation into one wealth class, which is a gross distortion of the facts.
Re:France comes to standstill livid workers protest plan to ... by throwaway2037 on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @08:33PM (#35064008)
Wow, I'm old. In my brain, it used to be about 80K. That was a long time ago!

Here is the official history: https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/cbb.html

The jump between 2022 and 2023 is huge.

Re:France comes to standstill livid workers protest plan to ... by simoncion on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @08:48PM (#35064131)
> The jump between 2022 and 2023 is huge.

It's not that far off from actual inflation during that period (and inflation that is currently ongoing).

Re:France comes to standstill livid workers protest plan to ... by mynameishere on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @08:58PM (#35064213)
That doesn't make it "regressive". The untaxed dollars after 160k don't count towards benefits.

Rather, the tax is extremely progressive due to the various "bends". As you contribute more into the system, they make the per-dollar value of your contributions go from .9 to .3 to .15.

Anyway, Social Security is fine. It's Medicare/Medicaid that's going to nuke the budget.

Re:France comes to standstill livid workers protest plan to ... by YokoZar on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @09:46PM (#35064565)
The payroll tax is an income tax with the following brackets:

0-147k: 12.4%

147k+: 0%

The number goes down at the higher income bracket, which means you pay less % of your money in payroll taxes the more you make. That is the very definition of regressive.

Re:France comes to standstill livid workers protest plan to ... by jandrewrogers on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @10:47PM (#35064981)
Those aren’t the only tax brackets high earners are subject to. Aggregate tax load is roughly still progressive.

That aside, as a matter of policy, uncapping the taxes would destroy the popular notion that the amount of Social Security you receive reflects your contributions. If the public believed it was literally just income tax, and if there was no cap there would be no reason to not just adjust the income tax by that amount, it would be subject to the same politics as income taxes and could be cut on a whim. Treating it differently than income taxes, even when it is not, is essential for its survival. If they didn’t cap it, top income tax rates would be >60%, and there isn’t much appetite for that.

Re:France comes to standstill livid workers protest plan to ... by dntrkv on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @09:45PM (#35064555)
Removing the cap would not fix the system, it would only buy us additional time.