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Re:Atlassian to shed 5 per cent of workers by sverhagen on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @01:41AM (#35052313)
It's fine?

Okay, we can quibble about the exact qualification. But I, like many others, am often quite upset about all sorts of stupid inefficiencies of Jira, and, to give a nod to a sibling thread: Bitbucket even more so. Now, you say "fine", I say very mediocre. And the thing with developers and their tooling is that we're often quite spoiled such that this mediocrity just doesn't sit well with us. In a lot of places, there is choice such that we can pick the most efficient, non-mediocre tools for our taste. But Jira is just such a de-facto industry standard, that there's less tolerance for shopping around, and many of us get stuck with it.

If you're in a sluggish enterprise, and you're conditioned to sit on the phone for a change request, or wait a minute and a half for your IT website to load, sure, Jira may be a breath of fresh air. But for a lot of us, Jira is the IBM of project management: no one got ever fired for buying it, but few people are happy with it either.

Re:Atlassian to shed 5 per cent of workers by andy_ppp on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @01:56AM (#35052413)
You never had the pleasure of working on Yahoo!’s extremely customised bugzilla install I’m guessing. Once you used that you’d think Jira was pretty great and well optimised!
Re:Atlassian to shed 5 per cent of workers by sverhagen on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @02:21AM (#35052544)
I have worked at Sluggish Enterprise™, which I was referencing. I had the luxury of moving on. So, I understand that you can always come across worse, but that doesn't absolve Atlassian, now does it :)
Re:Atlassian to shed 5 per cent of workers by alias_neo on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @03:37AM (#35053046)
Some people are ok with mediocre, and that too is "fine", but you're right, Atlassian products are shite, they persist because of their ubiquity not because anyone I know or have ever worked with wants to use them.

Thankfully, they told industries like mine to go fuck ourselves when they discontinued the self-hosted options, and thanks in part, to COVID, there has been a lot of competition growing lately for developer tools like these.