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Re:Rapid growth, lessons learned and improvements at Fly.io by ricardobeat on Monday March 06, 2023 @09:16PM (#35050681)
As an EEUU resident, we also don't care. We can survive without youtube and instagram and the whole surveillance industry. Some of the laws place a heavy burden on giant tech companies, but for good reason.
Re:Rapid growth, lessons learned and improvements at Fly.io by alex_sf on Monday March 06, 2023 @11:50PM (#35051709)
They place a burden on everyone. A burden that's going to create a two-tier internet where service is immediately refused to EU citizens by every provider except the giant tech companies that can afford to comply.
Re:Rapid growth, lessons learned and improvements at Fly.io by Timon3 on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @07:02AM (#35054385)
Why exactly is it seemingly so expensive not to sell your customer data?
Re:Rapid growth, lessons learned and improvements at Fly.io by alex_sf on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @12:05PM (#35057818)
That's not the issue. I don't want to see personal data sold either. It's all the little rules. There are hundreds of pages just in GDPR. You need a banner and explicit opt-in just to support login/logout functionality.
Re:Rapid growth, lessons learned and improvements at Fly.io by Timon3 on Friday March 10, 2023 @06:06AM (#35092951)
Can you explain why you believe this to be the case? Let's say you log the user in. Yes, you need consent to store a login cookie, but that doesn't mean you need "a banner and explicit opt-in". You only need explicit opt-in, which you can do by... putting a "remember me" box next to your login form[1]. Is that really so hard?

[1] https://law.stackexchange.com/a/32157

Re:Rapid growth, lessons learned and improvements at Fly.io by tpxl on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @08:05AM (#35054868)
> giant tech companies that can afford to comply

Where does this sentiment come from? Cost of compliance for Facebook is many orders of magnitude higher than cost of compliance for a website for your hairdresser or a restaurant.

In my startup, GDPR was barely a blip on our radar. We had to delete website logs and that's about that. You have to keep record of customers/payment information for laws that supersede GDPR, and that's it if you run a legitimate business not reliant on stealing.

Re:Rapid growth, lessons learned and improvements at Fly.io by alex_sf on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @12:03PM (#35057801)
This simply isn't true. Look at the absurdity of all the cookie banners just to support basic login functionality. I'm all for internet privacy, but these laws are so sweeping that it's impossible to be compliant without a dedicated function for it.
Re:Rapid growth, lessons learned and improvements at Fly.io by lawik on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @04:56PM (#35061829)
No need for cookie banners for functionality like login. Ref: https://law.stackexchange.com/a/32157
Re:Rapid growth, lessons learned and improvements at Fly.io by quicksilver03 on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @09:14AM (#35055552)
Close, the giant tech companies may or may not comply but they surely can afford the fines that the various EU Data Protection authorities dream into reality by twisting an ever-changing body of interpretation of ambiguously written rules.
Re:Rapid growth, lessons learned and improvements at Fly.io by strken on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @02:31AM (#35052602)
That's a nice theory, but it may not survive the next few decades of regulatory capture by the same type of company you believe it's intended to act against.
Re:Rapid growth, lessons learned and improvements at Fly.io by Kiro on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @03:53AM (#35053162)
You don't speak for me. I don't want to live without YouTube.
Re:Rapid growth, lessons learned and improvements at Fly.io by arlort on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @03:58AM (#35053200)
Where are you from that you use EEUU as an acronym?
Re:Rapid growth, lessons learned and improvements at Fly.io by SZJX on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @05:41AM (#35053827)
Interesting that "EEUU" from my knowledge mostly refers to the US (Estados Unidos) in a Spanish context. The abbreviation for European Union would be UE (Unión Europea) right.
Re:Rapid growth, lessons learned and improvements at Fly.io by ricardobeat on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @06:19AM (#35054093)
Oops. Late-night brainfart, I'm a portuguese speaker and got things a bit mixed up :)