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Re:I spent a week without IPv4 to understand IPv6 transition... by wankle on Monday March 06, 2023 @05:02PM (#35048329)
IPv4 cuts it everywhere. IPv6 does not do anything to save the planet. IPv6 does have privacy concerns stated by many on this page. IPv6 could be shut down tomorrow and the Internet would continue working well.
Re:I spent a week without IPv4 to understand IPv6 transition... by CircleSpokes on Monday March 06, 2023 @08:04PM (#35050136)
No it wouldn't. Basically all mobile networks would break and have to do even more layers of NAT to meet demand.

> IPv6 does not do anything to save the planet.

The world doesn't have enough IPV4 addresses. It literally solves the problem. It is crazy to me so many people here are arguing for multileveled NAT instead of the obvious solution we have had for 20 years.

Re:I spent a week without IPv4 to understand IPv6 transition... by wankle on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @02:05PM (#35073333)
> The world doesn't have enough IPV4 addresses.

If 8 billion people wanted to host their own email and web, yes, we'd not have enough addresses for each person to have one. That isn't the case though. It will never be the case. If we look into the future and say well in 2023 5% of the world's population ran their own email and web for personal or business purposes and that number were to grow by 5% every year then in 20 years we would run out. That's a worse case, contrived scenario but even in that case, we'd still have 20 years to come up with something better than IPv6 that truly respects privacy and doesn't track each person.

Re:I spent a week without IPv4 to understand IPv6 transition... by sgjohnson on Thursday March 09, 2023 @05:44AM (#35080019)
The world has been out of IPv4 addresses for more than a decade. Which is horrible news for competition alone.

Try starting a new ISP. You’ll either do CGNAT on a single /24 of v4 space, or you’ll have to spend tens of millions for some pointless, legacy IP addresses.

Re:I spent a week without IPv4 to understand IPv6 transition... by tenebrisalietum on Thursday March 09, 2023 @11:49AM (#35083346)
I don't think EUI-64 being built into link-local fe80 addresses is a privacy issue. Link-local addresses don't get routed, so nothing outside of that network will see or know about them. As far as the router itself, e.g. your ISPs router, it can already gather MAC addresses if it wanted to, so IPv6 using the MAC to generate link-local addresses doesn't add or remove to that situation.

CGNAT is not the Internet working well. CGNAT makes you have to have your ISPs permission and coordination to originate outgoing traffic--imagine if you had to ask the power company for permission to operate each electrical device in your house.