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Re:Nalanda: The university that changed the world by Towaway69 on Monday March 06, 2023 @04:23PM (#35047814)
Won't that imply that "humans" didn't exist until the term "human" was invented?
Re:Nalanda: The university that changed the world by pasquinelli on Monday March 06, 2023 @07:53PM (#35050054)
a term defined is different from a thing existing.
Re:Nalanda: The university that changed the world by will_wright on Monday March 06, 2023 @11:52PM (#35051719)
is it though?! "language is the house of being"
Re:Nalanda: The university that changed the world by Towaway69 on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @09:35PM (#35064482)
A term by any other name would still smell as sweet as ... ;)
Re:Nalanda: The university that changed the world by lovemenot on Monday March 06, 2023 @10:55PM (#35051350)
That might in fact be true.

If we define humans as having a sufficiently sophisticated language, and using a term to reference one's entire species is characteristic of that, then at a stretch we could define the first human being as the child of proto-humans who first invented this linguistic concept.

Re:Nalanda: The university that changed the world by Towaway69 on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @01:00AM (#35052094)
Point taken :)

What if "human" would be replaced by "ape"?

Re:Nalanda: The university that changed the world by lovemenot on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @07:34AM (#35054605)
Sure. There are several similar arguments made in this thread. Such as, before the word "run" was first used, we could only walk quickly.

The logic of these arguments is fine. I just noticed a way to nit-pick your implementation of it.

Re:Nalanda: The university that changed the world by thaumasiotes on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @01:22AM (#35052219)
> If we define humans as having a sufficiently sophisticated language

That would be hard to object to.

> and using a term to reference one's entire species is characteristic of that

But this is easy to object to. People can easily do without a term for the species; it's more common to use tribal names, so that a contrast is drawn between different groups of humans (as opposed to between humans and animals, or humans and gods).

Terms for humans as a species come along pretty quickly, but they're not universal.