i'd say you're describing something that's pretty obvious on its face.

what's not obvious is this dynamic has been going on for over a century and a half in california and the greater american west in general. the white native reaction was at first the chinese exclusion act, then japanese internment / asset seizure.

the difference is this time the legacy white property owners are cashing out (cashing in?) in a huge way in both sales and rent as asians move in, so you can expect it to continue.

it's white flight, but financially inverted. in other words.... asian gentrification.

It arguably dates back further, with Hispanics rather than Asians

> The reason that I think the Bay Area and other tech hubs are so expensive is that asians with PHDs who fly in for their $500k/year machine learning tech job want to live around other asians. They do not want to live in rural Utah where you can get a nice house for $200k and remote work, but there are no asians around and there's probably more discrimination.

You can probably safely extrapolate that to all races who move to a foreign country. They tend to want to live amongst themselves. Not necessarily for racist reasons, but because it's a bit more familiar and you have an easier time communicating with others speaking your dialect, as well as having similar customs and social norms.

It really depends. In some countries, a desire to escape the "customs and social norms", or sometimes the current political trends, is one of the popular motivations to immigrate. I know quite a few Russian immigrants in US who consciously avoid areas with large proportion of compatriots and community events etc for this exact reason. More so since the war, of course, but it was already a thing when I moved here 12 years ago.

Another reason is the belief that there is a level of safety that comes with living with others in the same culture/religion/etc. not saying that it works out in practice, but it is something that holds some sway.

> Not necessarily for racist reasons, but because it's a bit more familiar and you have [...] similar customs and social norms.

So, racist reasons?

No we don't want to live with other asians. We want to live near our family (brothers / sisters / cousins) who are also in Tech. We will have no family in rural Utah.

same issue with my chinese wife alltough she doesnt has a PHD… We could work in lovely amazing places in france but we have to stay in the capital. yet with time it changes…

actually they (the asian you say) would face less discrimination but they just dont know it so they could be also racist by themselve (english is not my best, just trying to explain, of course they are not racist)

I see this in my street, 2 kebabs, one filled with black arabs with hallal meat, the other one being « american organic kebbab » and filled only by 35+ white people. it saddens me because ignorant me was thinking people will mix together at lunch…

> actually they (the asian you say) would face less discrimination but they just dont know it so they could be also racist by themselve (english is not my best, just trying to explain, of course they are not racist)

Thank you for speaking on our behalf and enlightening us on where we would/would not experience more/less racism.

I wonder how much of it being pumped up by oligarchs parking their asset; vancouver style.

so... Asians are at fault for the rising cost living?