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Re:Genes reveal striking diversity within similar ice age cu... by glass3 on Monday March 06, 2023 @11:01AM (#35042600)
>The problem is, we are just smart enough as a group to mess things up really efficiently for short term benefits (within two generations), but we're not smart enough to act as though we're planning for 5-10 generations into the future.

We could be smart enough. All the past cultures with monuments were building them to last.

Re:Genes reveal striking diversity within similar ice age cu... by AxelLuktarGott on Monday March 06, 2023 @11:05AM (#35042661)
All the past cultures that have monuments that still stand built them to last
Re:Genes reveal striking diversity within similar ice age cu... by syrrim on Monday March 06, 2023 @11:22AM (#35042856)
Highlighting the distinction between the minority rule and the majority rule. If 1% of people decide to build monuments to last millenia, there will be monuments from thousands of years ago. If 1% of people decide to be carefully conservationists and only consume what the land/ecosystem can support... say goodbye to that ecosystem.
Re:Genes reveal striking diversity within similar ice age cu... by AndrewKemendo on Monday March 06, 2023 @11:49AM (#35043226)
Great analogy and this is the challenge of humanity
Re:Genes reveal striking diversity within similar ice age cu... by AndrewKemendo on Monday March 06, 2023 @11:49AM (#35043217)
Yes you're correct, certain ruling psychopaths wanted the future to remember them forever and as a result used slaves and domination to create long term artifacts with extraordinary narcissistic effort.

I wouldn't call that being "smart as a group"

However I think Ozymandias is a good reminder here

Re:Genes reveal striking diversity within similar ice age cu... by vkou on Monday March 06, 2023 @01:01PM (#35044814)
All the cultures that were smart in the 5-10 generation planning scale got wiped out in the short term by the ones that weren't.