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Re:Twitter refused to pay AWS bill, so Amazon refused to pay... by thomascgalvin on Sunday March 05, 2023 @04:24PM (#35034098)
Elon's bold strategy of "not paying any of his bills" doesn't seem like a great way to keep a service up and running, but then again neither does firing any engineer who doesn't agree to be on call 24/7/365 to address Elon's little temper tantrums.
Re:Twitter refused to pay AWS bill, so Amazon refused to pay... by codeddesign on Sunday March 05, 2023 @07:31PM (#35035952)
The guy created 2 highly successful companies. He has a team around him making decisions. This comment is either ill-witted or willfully uninformed. Be aware that Twitter ran itself into the ground through poor ideological decision making. A company bought it and is trying to turn debt into sustainability.
Re:Twitter refused to pay AWS bill, so Amazon refused to pay... by DoctorOW on Sunday March 05, 2023 @08:00PM (#35036211)
Twitter's various services have had more downtime in the four months he's owned it then the last year before.
Re:Twitter refused to pay AWS bill, so Amazon refused to pay... by codeddesign on Monday March 06, 2023 @12:33AM (#35037808)
That’s your argument back? A completely unrelated comment? ::facepalm::
Re:Twitter refused to pay AWS bill, so Amazon refused to pay... by YourDadVPN on Monday March 06, 2023 @07:17AM (#35040137)
Is it unrelated? He's assuming Musk's takeover caused the downtime, but you're assuming it didn't. I can think of several reasons it might've (removing a large amount of staff and overworking the remainder being obvious ones). What's the alternative?
Re:Twitter refused to pay AWS bill, so Amazon refused to pay... by codeddesign on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @03:03AM (#35052807)
Or…the code base is a house of cards built by a poorly managed company. Then when changes are made the legacy code falls apart. This is the more likely scenario. Ultimately Twitter like the rest of the Valley was built on some great developers..and a whole lot of bad ones.
Re:Twitter refused to pay AWS bill, so Amazon refused to pay... by rtatay on Monday March 06, 2023 @08:51AM (#35040956)
Seems straightforward to me. Elon steps in, fires a bunch of technology talent, and voila, Twitter is on track to have 3x more downtime in the following year.
Re:Twitter refused to pay AWS bill, so Amazon refused to pay... by codeddesign on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @03:09AM (#35052855)
If they had talent, they would still have a job or easily move into a role they prefer. Doing a job vs talent are completely different animals.

By the way, since we are arguing over downtime..does anyone have tangible stats on this?

Re:Twitter refused to pay AWS bill, so Amazon refused to pay... by codeddesign on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @03:14AM (#35052893)
Talk is cheap. Back up your claim. Do you have downtime for the past 2-3 years?
Re:Twitter refused to pay AWS bill, so Amazon refused to pay... by rsynnott on Monday March 06, 2023 @09:10AM (#35041178)
The knots that people twist themselves into to claim that everything naughty ol' Mr Car does is always correct are kind of incredible, and, I think, basically unprecedented in the tech space. Steve Jobs' fans were pretty bad, but this is more like L Ron Hubbard's fans.
Re:Twitter refused to pay AWS bill, so Amazon refused to pay... by codeddesign on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @02:59AM (#35052781)
This has nothing to do with Elon, but rather that’s just how business works. The number of people that criticize without understanding how business works is almost comical. On the otherhand, California and the Valley are pretty comical to the rest of the country..