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Re:7 Weeks AI Alignment Curriculum by abecedarius on Sunday March 05, 2023 @04:10PM (#35033962)
Here are two things:

- Creating an AGI whose goals are compatible with ours.

- Creating an AGI with inscrutable goals and safely confining it.

They're not the same!

In whoever you've been talking to I can't recognize the rationalist scene I've known since it grew out of the 90s extropians. "AI boxing" was a live argument around the early 2000s. Not now.

Online you often see people in that community saying that slower progress in AI capabilities would be a very good thing. At the same time, yes, they do want us to achieve AGI/ASI as soon as possible, provided we don't screw it up.

Re:7 Weeks AI Alignment Curriculum by 13years on Sunday March 05, 2023 @04:20PM (#35034059)
> At the same time, yes, they do want us to achieve AGI/ASI as soon as possible, provided we don't screw it up.

That's the point, it is not possible. The premise is based on a paradox and you can't throwaway containment and have alignment that remains defined by original intent.

Re:7 Weeks AI Alignment Curriculum by abecedarius on Sunday March 05, 2023 @10:14PM (#35037130)
If you want to argue that it's logically impossible for a smarter-than-human intelligence to be created with values aligned with human ones, then cool, do that. (Note that a smart human on much faster hardware is smarter-than-human. This is not a claim that AGIs must be mere faster humans; it's one example to point out a difficulty for any such argument.)

But I think you gave a false impression of others at the start of this thread.

Re:7 Weeks AI Alignment Curriculum by 13years on Sunday March 05, 2023 @11:01PM (#35037394)
> If you want to argue that it's logically impossible for a smarter-than-human intelligence to be created with values aligned with human ones, then cool, do that.

That is precisely what I have stated.

> But I think you gave a false impression of others at the start of this thread.

How so?