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Re:As Kenya’s crops fail, a fight over GMO rages by mordae on Sunday March 05, 2023 @11:21AM (#35030985)
I don't believe US or EU will sell them the crops without patent enforcement.
Re:As Kenya’s crops fail, a fight over GMO rages by hinata08 on Sunday March 05, 2023 @11:50AM (#35031304)
It terrifies me to have a patent on the only crop that can grow in a country.

Food is a necessity

What happens if the seller decides to quadruple the price overnight ? (à la OPEC but for crops)

If some country does 'sanctions' ? (like Russia or the USA when they can't just declare a war to a place)

or if the economy collapses and imports are expensive ? (imagine Venezuela, but the country is also not able to buy crops that work)

these crops sellers will own the Kenyans.

I wouldn't buy the crops if patents were enforced.

it feels like some SF novel (or the Washington Consensus, yet again)

Back in the days, China forced foreign companies to work with domestic companies to sell in China. And at least, they are independent on some technologies now.

Re:As Kenya’s crops fail, a fight over GMO rages by xyzzyz on Sunday March 05, 2023 @12:01PM (#35031449)
I don’t think it is ever a case that someone can patent the only crop you can grow. Parents are not issued for such broad categories. You cannot patent corn or potatoes as a whole. What is patentable is a specific variety of corn that you develop anew. This means that you can always grow the traditional varieties that are not (and cannot be) patented. If a seller of patented variety quadruples seed price, you can just go back to these if patented variety is not worth the extra cost.
Re:As Kenya’s crops fail, a fight over GMO rages by sethammons on Sunday March 05, 2023 @12:33PM (#35031804)
Except that your neighbor bought into the patented crop and nature pollinated your crops, cross contaminating your fields and placing you into patent infringement.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-monsanto-organic-lawsuit/...

Re:As Kenya’s crops fail, a fight over GMO rages by xyzzyz on Sunday March 05, 2023 @01:36PM (#35032528)
Nobody has ever been sued for accidental cross contamination this, and Monsanto explicitly says that it will never sue anyone for this.
Re:As Kenya’s crops fail, a fight over GMO rages by sethammons on Sunday March 05, 2023 @02:01PM (#35032742)
> In its ruling Monday, the appellate court said the organic growers must rely on Monsanto assurances on the company’s website that it will not sue them so long as the mix is very slight

That is about as good as "trust us." If it is unclear, that is a really bad position legally.

Re:As Kenya’s crops fail, a fight over GMO rages by xyzzyz on Sunday March 05, 2023 @04:21PM (#35034069)
In theory, maybe, but in practice nobody (in particular, no serious, non-hobby farmers) cares about it other than activists who hate Monsanto. Outside of activist groups and NGOs, this is simply a non-issue.
Re:As Kenya’s crops fail, a fight over GMO rages by nostromo123 on Sunday March 05, 2023 @04:33PM (#35034206)
Big corporation with shady past promises us nicely that they will not sue...thanks, I'll pass!
Re:As Kenya’s crops fail, a fight over GMO rages by csharpminor on Sunday March 05, 2023 @12:10PM (#35031538)
There is a Hugo Award-winning SciFi book about this called The Wind Up Girl. It imagines a future where petroleum is depleted and “Calorie Companies” wield power by controlling the supply of blight resistant crops.
Re:As Kenya’s crops fail, a fight over GMO rages by unmole on Sunday March 05, 2023 @11:59AM (#35031416)
> It terrifies me to have a patent on the only crop that can grow in a country.

If dreaming up an implausible scenario scares you, maybe that's on you?

Re:As Kenya’s crops fail, a fight over GMO rages by makeitdouble on Sunday March 05, 2023 @05:34PM (#35034899)
On the bright side, this would probably happen only if the host country doesn't block these crops and continue enforcing those patents as the situation gets dire.

A sane gov. would pull the brakes pretty fast.

On the dirty side, a gov could be forced in that situation as a condition to receive foreign investment or other critical foreign intervention. We've seen it happen with water infra built under a condition of monopoly, an puting the country's water at the mercy of an international company.

Re:As Kenya’s crops fail, a fight over GMO rages by jcampbell1 on Sunday March 05, 2023 @05:45PM (#35035002)
You don't need patent enforcement for hybrid crops, which is pretty much every seed other than soybeans which is an heirloom crop. Corn has major hybrid vigor, so only a totally ignorant farmer would try to replant harvested corn. Corn seeds are made by crossing two heirloom corn varieties at a seed farm, e.g. Southern Dent is crossed with Northern Flint (both are about 5 feet tall and make small ears), to make hybrid corn which grows about 8 feet tall and has massive ears. When you sell seeds, you don't get access to the heirloom plants needed to make the seed. No need for patents.

With soybeans however, they breed true as heirlooms. The GMO beans were sold with the promise that farmers don't use the crop as seeds. Since everything other than soybeans are hybrids, the issue is largely moot.