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Re:Dropping the Sat Requirement Is a Luxury Belief by jeffrallen on Sunday March 05, 2023 @09:13AM (#35029737)
I live in a society with free education for all, up to and including university. To make that possible, there are a limited number of seats, and the number is based on the needs of society, and on our government's budget. The seats are allocated based on testing, but there are multiple ways to "test into" a seat, i.e. "you missed it this time, but go do another two years of pre-university and you might get in later".

This is the best we can hope for: a transparent system, with clearly defined multiple pathways, and a limited number of completely free seats at the education table.

Also: one thing which other systems miss is different maturity. If someone is bright but at 15 does not see the point of studying and prefers to smoke with the stoners, fine. At 18, get a job in retail, and perhaps at 20 the light will go on and they will realize that there's a way put of retail hell and they are smart enough to test i to university with night prep classes.

Re:Dropping the Sat Requirement Is a Luxury Belief by zozbot234 on Sunday March 05, 2023 @09:50AM (#35030034)
If there's a limited number of seats, it's not "free for all". (Of course, there's no way around inherent class size limits under any system, other than MOOC's which are quite different from actual real-world college classes.)
Re:Dropping the Sat Requirement Is a Luxury Belief by jeffrallen on Sunday March 05, 2023 @10:28AM (#35030414)
All education at all levels is free for all. If what you are capable of contributing to society to support your family is plastering, your plastering training is free.
Re:Dropping the Sat Requirement Is a Luxury Belief by jeffrallen on Sunday March 05, 2023 @01:47PM (#35032628)
Forgot to mention: I suppose this only works in high trust societies.

Citizens are sometimes dissatisfied with individual outcomes, but there is no groundswell of resistance to it because people generally believe the system (both the educational system, but also the entire economic system) is fair.

Re:Dropping the Sat Requirement Is a Luxury Belief by hijghula on Sunday March 05, 2023 @06:41PM (#35035499)
Sounds like the French system.

Largely free (taxpayer-funded) at all levels but if you want to go into the best schools you better bring in your A-game because entrance requirements it to sit series of 4 hour long tests graded anonymously.