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Re:Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve by toyg on Friday March 03, 2023 @10:41AM (#35011033)
The American Revolution was bankrolled by interested parties in Europe. That doesn't make its ideals and achievements less valid.
Re:Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve by pphysch on Friday March 03, 2023 @01:03PM (#35012986)
What ideals and achievements?
Re:Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve by celu on Friday March 03, 2023 @01:06PM (#35013032)
Democracy
Re:Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve by pphysch on Friday March 03, 2023 @01:10PM (#35013075)
USA isn't a democracy, it's a republic. And "the people" was defined to exclude native Americans, people with dark skin, poors, etc. Altogether a very weak flavor of "democracy".
Re:Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve by 2OEH8eoCRo0 on Friday March 03, 2023 @02:08PM (#35013704)
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/yes-consti...

> There is some truth to this insistence. But it is mostly disingenuous. The Constitution was meant to foster a complex form of majority rule, not enable minority rule.

Forming the United States also took a lot of compromise. If nobody was willing to budge on these archaic issues we wouldn't be here today. It doesn't change the vision that all men are created equal and entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Re:Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve by pphysch on Friday March 03, 2023 @02:53PM (#35014213)
Nor does it change the fact that the USA has been violating that vision since day 1, and despite some moments of light, hasn't stopped.
Re:Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve by twelve40 on Friday March 03, 2023 @02:15PM (#35013777)
yeah like an example from centuries ago a world away is relevant. Situation in Syria or "democratic" Iraq is probably more illustrative of what's in store for them.
Re:Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve by toyg on Saturday March 04, 2023 @05:46AM (#35019940)
> yeah like an example from centuries ago a world away is relevant.

"I don't like where this is going so I'll just arbitrarily disqualify the line of argument even though it's logically valid."

> Situation in Syria or "democratic" Iraq is probably more illustrative

Cynicism is a hinder to progress. Reality is messy, but if we tell people to stop aspiring, things can only get worse. Tunisia after the revolution has had its problems but it's still freer than it was, for example; same for Algeria. Chances are even going from a theocracy to a secular dictatorship on the Egyptian model, for example, would be a significant step forward.