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Re:Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents by fancyfredbot on Friday March 03, 2023 @07:59AM (#35008963)
$30m training cost is too high. Amazon's p4d.24xlarge is $32.77 an hour for 8 A100 GPUs. 2048 A100 GPUs for 23 days costs $4.6m at that rate. You might even get a discount.
Re:Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents by orbz on Friday March 03, 2023 @08:18AM (#35009172)
At the same time I guarantee you they didn’t get it right the first time. I’m sure there were multiple (both serially and in parallel) runs as they worked out kinks and tuned hyper parameters.
Re:Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents by zamnos on Friday March 03, 2023 @11:25AM (#35011635)
Not to mention, the kind of expertise to run this for a major corporation doesn't come for free either? Facebook employs quite a few high profile ML researchers who undoubtedly make mid-high six figure salaries.
Re:Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents by nodja on Friday March 03, 2023 @08:27AM (#35009279)
15k is the price to buy a GPU, not to run it, you'd have to account for electricity costs which isn't so straight forward.
Re:Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents by ithkuil on Friday March 03, 2023 @08:32AM (#35009339)
The point was that if you only need to train once, then it's cheaper to rent the GPUs than to buy them. If you need to train it multiple times, then the cost of buying the GPUs is amortized among runs.

In any case the cost per run is going to be lower than 30m

Re:Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents by iszomer on Friday March 03, 2023 @08:42AM (#35009486)
I'm sure that's the case. The latest sku I'm responsible for QC testing now contains 4x A100's in a 2U chassis. And oh man the number of QSFP ports it utilizes..
Re:Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents by Godel_unicode on Friday March 03, 2023 @09:26AM (#35010008)
That’s something like a 50% premium over Azure, even before reservation discounts, that’s insane!

Edit: todays pricing looks like about 20% higher, still. How are these prices so different.

Re:Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents by sofixa on Friday March 03, 2023 @09:52AM (#35010320)
Azure is generally a pretty terrible cloud (poor UX, very slow for anything, multiple highly critical cross-tenant security issues, etc.) far behind the market leader, AWS, so they have to compensate with pricing (same reason why Oracle Cloud is so reasonably price, they're already so far behind their usual pricing wouldn't make any sense).