They would have accepted it out of necessity. Doesn't mean depending on "white knights" is desirable or effective. Didn't work out of several other million, for starters.
Even less desirable when there is no "direct death threat", and the victims are perfectly capable of having opinions and speaking for themselves, as opposed to others co-opting and/or hijacking their concerns.
Well sure, no one wants to be in the position, where he or she needs to be saved in the first place, but if you are in that position - help is still needed and wanted.
"Didn't work out of several other million, for starters."
And that is simply, because no one came in time.
"Even less desirable when there is no "direct death threat", and the victims are perfectly capable of having opinions and speaking for themselves, as opposed to others co-opting and/or hijacking their concerns. "
And yes, which is why I wrote: "if you want to emporer people in general, you cannot fight their battles for them and declare them uncaple of fighting their battles. "
I merly stated, that no one came to save the jews in europe, which is why they went to the death camps.
Which you are debating for some reason, along with personal insults.
I suppose because you think the jews should have been organized better and fend for themself? Well, maybe. But they were not organized. They were in the weaker position and chased by the Nazis. In this situation, outside help is needed in my perception, but you may think whatever you want about it all. And if you can share what you think without insults, I might read it.
You sound like an autistic person in a fog of confusion. (not a dig)
Let me be as clear as possible: between far right Neo-nazis and woke do gooders I'm honestly not sure whom I'm alarmed by more as a Jewish person. Genuinely alarmed. As in afraid for myself and my loved ones futures. As in this shit is all too familiar.
I've had the misfortune of interacting with both of these groups in real life. They have many things in common not the least of which is this weird confidence combined with an ignorance of history as a trampoline into really dark beliefs. A little knowledge is a very dangerous thing.
Please don't try to "help" anyone or mention the holocaust again. I beg you.
Or would have rejected the allies when they came liberating the camps?
Seriously?
As far as I know, the jews and all other surpressed minorities of europe were making great risks, to get information (like from a hidden radio) about the advance of the allies. Because this was the main thing bringing hope.