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Re:Honestly, It's Probably the Phones by renewiltord on Thursday March 02, 2023 @12:22PM (#34998693)
That's about knowing the conversation you're having. When I'm talking with my gooner friends there is a tenor to the conversation. In addition to the fun of the games, we're tribal bonding.

Often you'll find new fans on /r/soccer who don't know what conversation they're having.

"I'm an Arsenal fan, too, but I don't think Henry was better than Ronaldo."

You moron. What are you doing. False chenzeme. We're bannering our colours here you idiot. Out with you.

Anyway, it's not about whether the police have been defunded or not or whether The Handmaid's Tale has come to America or not. It's about waving the appropriate flag and feeling the tribe strength wash over you and the energy of pure unity lift you skyward.

Re:Honestly, It's Probably the Phones by richardjdare on Friday March 03, 2023 @04:35AM (#35007562)
lol I'm English and have lived amongst football fans my whole life. Yet I have always felt that even if I spent a year studying football, learning the history, the techniques of the players, I would never be able to hold a convincing conversation with a football fan and be accepted.

It's almost as if the football is merely a vehicle for a kind of unspoken, shared mindset that is never articulated, but always keenly enforced. My whole life I've never felt like I had a way in with the football fans I know.

Thanks for helping me understand the mindset better.

Re:Honestly, It's Probably the Phones by int_19h on Sunday March 05, 2023 @07:52PM (#35036132)
> It's about waving the appropriate flag and feeling the tribe strength wash over you and the energy of pure unity lift you skyward.

Like opiates. And, also like opiates, once you get hooked, it's very difficult to get off even when you realize that it's not actually good for you.