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Re:The Great Gaslighting of the JavaScript Era – The Spicy Web by PaulHoule on Thursday March 02, 2023 @07:58AM (#34995093)
And what’s a Stan? Why does everybody sound like an Incel all of a sudden? Why does the most prescient part of Orwell’s 1984 be the part about about the impoverishment of language for political ends.
Re:The Great Gaslighting of the JavaScript Era – The Spicy Web by theandrewbailey on Thursday March 02, 2023 @08:35AM (#34995446)
Looks like Stan is the archetype for an obsessive fan.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Stan

I had to look it up; I was under the mistaken impression that Stan was the male equivalent of Karen, but I guess there are some similarities between them.

Re:The Great Gaslighting of the JavaScript Era – The Spicy Web by asddubs on Thursday March 02, 2023 @08:40AM (#34995482)
stan is a reference to the eminem song of the same name, referring either to just being a big fan, or being unhealthily obsessed with something, depending on context.
Re:The Great Gaslighting of the JavaScript Era – The Spicy Web by mschuster91 on Thursday March 02, 2023 @08:41AM (#34995498)
> Why does everybody sound like an Incel all of a sudden?

If there is one thing the incel or general far-right community has been very successful at, it's coopting and hiding behind popular vocabulary and arts - most notably Pepe the Frog, but also... have a look on how modern neo-Nazis look like at rallies. It used to be the case up until the 90s that neo-Nazis could easily be spotted: shaven head, Lonsdale/Consdaple clothing, combat boots. Nowadays, they show up in everyday ordinary clothing, listening even to rap music, wearing all kinds of hairstyles.

Re:The Great Gaslighting of the JavaScript Era – The Spicy Web by nomdep on Thursday March 02, 2023 @07:05PM (#35003892)
Or maybe, your definition of a neo-nazi has grown to include regular people whose opinion you don’t like, hence the confusion
Re:The Great Gaslighting of the JavaScript Era – The Spicy Web by satvikpendem on Thursday March 02, 2023 @08:27AM (#34995367)
You're about 20 years too late regarding Stans. Also, where and how do they sound like incels?
Re:The Great Gaslighting of the JavaScript Era – The Spicy Web by PaulHoule on Thursday March 02, 2023 @09:05AM (#34995745)
Incels might be the most prominent example of a group with a large hermetic vocabulary that floats independently of the rules that govern neologisms.

For instance you could almost figure out what ‘anti-racism’ is based on the composition rules of language. (But you might think “anti-“ means “opposed to” whereas “anti-“ as in anti-matter is more like it according to Coates.)

Someone who went to the movies might dimly understand the “pills” (or do some people just take a lot of drugs?). On the other hand you could never figure out “chad”, and “stacey” without explanation.

Re:The Great Gaslighting of the JavaScript Era – The Spicy Web by hgsgm on Thursday March 02, 2023 @09:11AM (#34995831)
You are trying to lock down language with your own restrictive unstated rules, while also complaining about 1984 locking down language with rules?!

Shaka, when the walls fell.

Re:The Great Gaslighting of the JavaScript Era – The Spicy Web by UncleEntity on Thursday March 02, 2023 @12:07PM (#34998449)
> On the other hand you could never figure out “chad”, and “stacey” without explanation.

Or, you know, context.

I don’t know what a Stan is but could easily understand what they were referring to by the way they used the word.

Incels? What’s that? Pots that call the kettles black?

Re:The Great Gaslighting of the JavaScript Era – The Spicy Web by hgsgm on Thursday March 02, 2023 @09:09AM (#34995808)
Enriching language by creating new words for new ideas is the opposite of 1984.
Re:The Great Gaslighting of the JavaScript Era – The Spicy Web by bccdee on Saturday March 04, 2023 @12:49AM (#35018551)
"Stan" has been fairly mainstream slang for about twenty years [1]. Being out of touch with popular culture is not a sign of Orwellian thought control.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_(song)