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Re:Chicago sold rights to 36k parking meters for $1.2B that ... by justinclift on Thursday March 02, 2023 @06:18AM (#34994475)
Heh Heh Heh

It's almost like being a public company vs being a government run entity isn't the major decider of effectiveness / optimal outcomes for end users.

Instead, it seems to be "is this company (etc) run by self-interested arseholes trying to enrich themselves at the expense of others?"

If it is, then the structure isn't going to matter. End users are going to have a bad time, regardless of the PR/bullshit said company puts out to say otherwise.

Likewise, if the company (regardless of structure) is run by clueful people dedicated to actually providing the required service, end users are going to be in a decent position.

Unless of course they get screwed over by above mentioned arsehole types. eg starved of budget if they're a gov org, have activist investors cause trouble if they're a public company

Re:Chicago sold rights to 36k parking meters for $1.2B that ... by hbrn on Thursday March 02, 2023 @01:32PM (#34999740)
The unobvious reality is that majority the world population:

1. Don't think of themselves as self-interested arseholes.

2. They are in fact self-interested arseholes.

We have no methodology that allows us to put "good people" in power. And even if we had, power corrupts. So the best we can do is to build a system that works even when all actors are self-serving.

Re:Chicago sold rights to 36k parking meters for $1.2B that ... by justinclift on Friday March 03, 2023 @10:15AM (#35010663)
> So the best we can do is to build a system that works even when all actors are self-serving.

Doesn't seem to be working though eh?

That being said, I don't have any fantastic suggestions either. :(

Re:Chicago sold rights to 36k parking meters for $1.2B that ... by hbrn on Friday March 03, 2023 @01:28PM (#35013285)
If a system has bugs, is it fair to say it's not working?

Typically you just fix a bug, though of course some systems reach a point where a rewrite (either incremental or from scratch) is the only option. I see absolutely no evidence that we reached that point, all arguments are just emotional factoids. I also see no attempts for an incremental rewrite, all people want is to burn the system and hope that something good rises from the ashes.