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Re:No, Teen Suicide Isn’t Rising Because Life Got Objectivel... by rayiner on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @02:51PM (#34987378)
> I can almost guarantee that young people don't have social security on the top of their minds. It's school school school internship work, that's it. Those bars are raised each year. Leisure time is social media and video games. All that got amplified in 2020. Not hard to see why they're depressed.

You’re assuming a level of insight into people’s meta-knowledge of their own mental state that I don’t think is warranted. Maybe they’re not thinking of social security, but maybe there’s mental health benefits to caring for elderly grandparents at home that people don’t appreciate.

As to leisure—in the 1950s, half of 16-19 year olds had jobs. Today it’s around 30%. Maybe having a real, if menial job is more fulfilling than playing video games or doing bullshit box checking exercises for college applications? That’s a cultural change too.

Re:No, Teen Suicide Isn’t Rising Because Life Got Objectivel... by hot_gril on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @03:00PM (#34987482)
Taking care of elderly family members at home went away well before the recent dip in mental health and falls in line with the decline of family values. I'm personally saddened by the change, but I don't think it explains much here.

I'm guessing fewer 16-19yo have jobs mainly because school is more important now. College attendance is way up.

Re:No, Teen Suicide Isn’t Rising Because Life Got Objectivel... by vore on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @05:44PM (#34989383)
It's incredibly ironic that you're accusing the parent post of "assuming a level of insight into people’s meta-knowledge of their own mental state" while up and down the thread you're making gigantic reactionary assumptions about what cultural factors are causing teens to feel less fulfilled today. It feels good and easy to pine for the "good old days" where 50% of kids flipped burgers at McDonald's or whatever but the fact of the matter is, given how many confounding variables there are, you're just as clueless as anyone else about this.

If we're going to make random stabs in the dark and bring in our own bargain basement personal opinions into this, I can tell you at least that interacting with my abusive family much less has only been fantastic for my mental health. Obviously this isn't the case for everyone, but maybe that's not important and I should just universalize this viewpoint like you, right?

Re:No, Teen Suicide Isn’t Rising Because Life Got Objectivel... by rayiner on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @08:39PM (#34990843)
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