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Re:No, Teen Suicide Isn’t Rising Because Life Got Objectivel... by LatteLazy on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @12:05PM (#34984835)
Or post the 2008 crash where everything governments did for young people was slashed...
Re:No, Teen Suicide Isn’t Rising Because Life Got Objectivel... by gretch on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @12:10PM (#34984917)
+1 to this

How many teens had to watch their parent come home and announce that they got laid off from their job and that this year there wasn't going to be a yearly family trip?

Re:No, Teen Suicide Isn’t Rising Because Life Got Objectivel... by hot_gril on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @12:27PM (#34985216)
There were so many recessions before 2008.
Re:No, Teen Suicide Isn’t Rising Because Life Got Objectivel... by kube-system on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @01:01PM (#34985839)
Yearly vacations are a fairly modern thing. My older relatives have stories about not being able to afford food, either due to the depression, or rationing during the war. Car ownership in the US broke 50% mid-century. The majority of my silent-generation relatives never, in their entire lives, traveled more than 100 miles from their birthplace.

Poverty and unemployment continue to exist in other places around the globe, often in places with very low suicide rates.

Re:No, Teen Suicide Isn’t Rising Because Life Got Objectivel... by jrussino on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @02:26PM (#34987046)
I wonder if it's the change in the trend rather than the change in the state. My great grandparents came to the US as immigrants with zero wealth in the early 1900's. My grandparents were children during the depression, lived their formative years during WWII and raised "baby boomer" children, and had a modest but comfortable retirement. My dad was the first person in his family to go to college and had a relatively prosperous professional career and a nice big house in the suburbs and we got to experience ~yearly vacations.

I realize that there are many life stories here and this may not be reflective of everybody's expectations, but when I was young (pre-9/11) it felt like part of the zeitgeist that "every generation has it a little better than the last" (at least, in the material sense). Now there seems to be a prevailing sentiment that for the first time in living memory people's conditions in the aggregate are trending downward rather than upwards.

Re:No, Teen Suicide Isn’t Rising Because Life Got Objectivel... by gretch on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @05:22PM (#34989168)
I believe that humans adapt to their environment and I think any one can live a happy life without X or Y luxury, in this case a family trip.

What I’m talking about is a sudden change in normalcy - since you were a kid every year there was a trip. Now there’s not a trip.

If I put you in a loincloth with a club in the wilderness, you might be pretty upset at that. But literally millions (billions?) of our cro magnon ancestors did it just fine.

Re:No, Teen Suicide Isn’t Rising Because Life Got Objectivel... by korroziya on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @10:44PM (#34991722)
>no family trip this year

Rich kid problems.

Re:No, Teen Suicide Isn’t Rising Because Life Got Objectivel... by rationalist on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @12:12PM (#34984939)
> everything governments did for young people

This is the first time I've heard of this argument. What kinds of things are you referring to?