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Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by narag on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @08:07AM (#34981926)
He edited the comment and linked relevant tweets.

I would add this one:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1630640058507116553

I had no idea about this drama either, so I didn't understand what Elon was talking about, now it seems clear.

But "Based"? Is it the name of his new AI company? Where does that come from?

Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by permo-w on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @09:15AM (#34982603)
"Based" is slang for "cool" or "in" that's common on 4chan, but I believe has its origins in the 90s offline

on 4chan it's largely used to mean something along the lines of "fitting the 4chan anti-groupthink groupthink"

Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by neom on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @09:24AM (#34982707)
I do recall people saying based a lot in the 90s, it meant based in reality.
Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by moralestapia on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @12:24PM (#34985163)
This is it.
Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by permo-w on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @03:17PM (#34987703)
this sounds much more plausible than the sibling comment's "based on your own beliefs", but plausibility is not necessarily correctness
Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by hot_gril on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @12:02PM (#34984767)
Eh, originally meant "based on your own beliefs," usually in the context of sticking to your guns despite unpopularity. Which is/was the cool thing to express on 4chan.
Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by honkler on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @05:58PM (#34989515)
nah. 4chan learnt it from the rap song "Based God".
Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by hot_gril on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @10:01PM (#34991382)
It meant the same thing in "Based God." I know 4chan didn't invent the phrase.
Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by honkler on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @10:17PM (#34991495)
Based in that means "being intoxicated with cocaine".
Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by hot_gril on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @10:24PM (#34991556)
Lil B said it's both: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Based%20God But only because he changed the meaning. Didn't realize there was an older one too.
Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by peyton on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @08:59PM (#34990956)
What? It’s from the 80s and means high on crack (freebase) and was re-popularized by Based God like 10–15 years ago.
Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by hot_gril on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @10:30PM (#34991606)
Yep, didn't know about the crack meaning. Based God made it what it is today.
Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by neom on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @09:26AM (#34982724)
Yeah I had no clue what his deal was, but I decided to search his tweets for "openAI" and it became clear pretty quickly.
Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by JeremyNT on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @10:40AM (#34983521)
"Based" is a catchphrase of the extremely online right. It basically means "cool" but with a subtext of "is annoying to libs/normies who just don't get it."

See also "pilled."

Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by ajkjk on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @11:00AM (#34983756)
For many years it was just a term in gamer culture, I guess it has been repurposed a bit in the last few years.
Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by numbers_guy on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @11:09AM (#34983887)
Words become political when you start injecting politics in them. It originally meant "cool" and had no political connotations to it. It originated on 4chan. And just because some group happens to use a word more frequently doesn't suddenly turn you into a NAZI if you happen to like using the same word.
Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by JeremyNT on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @11:33AM (#34984275)
The thing about language is that it isn't static, it changes over time. Sometimes a previously dominant usage will become eclipsed by a new one that emerges.

There's nuance to the etymology of any word of course. In fact I sometimes see the extremely online left try to (ironically?) appropriate "based." But I think in the context we can all figure out which connotation Elon was using.

Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by numbers_guy on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @11:42AM (#34984434)
Yes I get that. My argument is, when some group you don't like starts adopting a word, your reaction should not be to politicize the word and shun it and pretend they stole it. Just keep using the word as you intend it and who cares about what some other dumbfucks think.
Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by Eisenstein on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @07:49PM (#34990501)
Because the primary purpose of language is communication and if you aren't accomplishing that then you have some other reason for using it. Slang changes all the time -- no one says 'true dat' anymore.
Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by the_only_law on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @11:13AM (#34983954)
I’m not sure why people are still talking about it as some insular 4chan slang. Like much of 4chan culture, it’s spread to most of the rest of the internet by now. Hell I’ve seen “based” comments on HN.
Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by numbers_guy on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @11:16AM (#34984017)
I shun most of the internet these days. HN and (German) reddit are the only "socials" I use. I have no clue what is happening on the wider Anglo speaking internet, especially Twitter and such is completely alien to me.
Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by wahnfrieden on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @06:41PM (#34989968)
lil b started it, not 4chan
Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by paintman252 on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @11:41AM (#34984419)
That's just not true. I've been in many very online leftist communities and they also freely use it.

it's just general internet speak at this point

Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by deathanatos on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @12:08PM (#34984887)
I view its etymology like this,

              Lil B
    (based ≈ doing your own thing (in a good way)
             not swayed by critics)
             ↙           ↘
       Gen Z             4chan
   (based ≈ cool)        ("based and redpilled"
                          ≈"unswayed by pop rhetoric"
                           and "sees the world beyond the 'illusion'", resp.)
Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by sangnoir on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @01:12PM (#34986055)
You may be ignoring context in this specific instance: the picture in Musk's tweet has "Woke AI" and "Closed AI" being chased off by Based AI.
Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by logarhythmic on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @02:46PM (#34987301)
I don't know of anyone who is trying to be political when using those terms. It's just general internet slang younger people use at this point
Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by dragonwriter on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @10:46PM (#34991731)
> "Based" is a catchphrase of the extremely online right. It basically means "cool" but with a subtext of "is annoying to libs/normies who just don't get it."

It is also a catchphrase of the extremely online left with exactly the same in-group vs. out-group implication (and, amusingly—because of the different meanings of “liberal” and “lib” favored by the two sides—usually identical meaning with regard to “libs/normies”.)

Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by projektfu on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @12:20PM (#34985093)
With the baseball bat it evokes Kyle Chapman.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Chapman_(American_activis...

Re:OpenAI Is Now Everything It Promised Not to Be: Closed-So... by root_axis on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @04:47PM (#34988799)
> But "Based"? Is it the name of his new AI company? Where does that come from?

It's a reference to the BasedGPT "jailbroken" ChatGPT persona that responds to answers in a less politically correct manner.