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Re:Apartment Rents Fall as Crush of New Supply Hits Market by distant_hat on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @01:34AM (#34979405)
Its often surprised me how anti-children many of the people in the West are. Children make noise, children are the future of your society. You make it difficult for families to live and children to be children and then are surprised when demographics are getting worse with no young folks. Interestingly, in India, the discrimination is the other way round and bachelors and unmarried folks find it harder to rent. Here there is no protection against that and a lot of listings, especially in good neighborhoods will explicitly specifiy, families only. People will conjure up parents and bring them over for a few months sometimes to make it look like they are a 'family'.
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Re:Apartment Rents Fall as Crush of New Supply Hits Market by beebmam on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @01:58AM (#34979525)
It's not just the west. It's even worse in Chinese cities, for example. Maybe has something to do with age demographics.
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Re:Apartment Rents Fall as Crush of New Supply Hits Market by luckylion on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @02:26AM (#34979688)
I don't mind children, but I prefer to not live around dysfunctional families that make the children run their household. People who say stuff like "children noise is the music of the future" have never lived below a family with children that really made noise (or I guess maybe they have, but they've lived in a bunker). I have, and you no longer live alone, you live with the constant noise that's sometimes higher, sometimes lower, but it's never gone unless you get ear plugs.

I'm fine with children, but they need to have adults that reign them in. That's a coin flip, so I wouldn't ever move anywhere again, knowing that families with children live above/below/next to me.

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Re:Apartment Rents Fall as Crush of New Supply Hits Market by lynx23 on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @03:14AM (#34979945)
Full ACK. However, we are quite a minority. However, parents dont want to hear about their responsibilities...
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Re:Apartment Rents Fall as Crush of New Supply Hits Market by DiggyJohnson on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @07:54AM (#34981818)
ACK==acknowledge?
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Re:Apartment Rents Fall as Crush of New Supply Hits Market by lynx23 on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @02:29AM (#34979702)
I'd argue the parents of said children are anti-children, because they are living in an apartment building without any possibility to play for the children nearby. There is nothing they can use outdoors to get rid of excess energy. Parents could have found something a few kilometers away, but apparently did not care about their chldren. I dont see why I should be especially understanding if the parents are unwilling to live somewhere where their children can have fun. The fact remains that they are very loud and parents apparently are bad at parenting.
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Re:Apartment Rents Fall as Crush of New Supply Hits Market by simplotek on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @02:39AM (#34979754)
> I'd argue the parents of said children are anti-children, because they are living in an apartment building without any possibility to play for the children nearby.

What do you have to say about the fact that apartments are the only option?

It feels to me that you're trying to depict not living in a nice suburban villa as subjecting children to abuse, as if this was a whimsical decision of egotistical parents.

Meanwhile, moving to the suburbs is a luxury that's way out of the reach of working class families, not to mention the fact that outside of the US it's outright unthinkable.

And all the time wasted commuting is not considered abuse why?

To me it reads you're claiming "let them eat cake", followed up by "not letting children eat cake is anti-children."

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Re:Apartment Rents Fall as Crush of New Supply Hits Market by lynx23 on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @03:08AM (#34979911)
I know for a fact that child-friendly-suburbian appartments are actually cheaper then the city-center-appartment they have now. But you can go on and assume all sorts of bad things about me, that doesnt change my opinion about egotistical parents.
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Re:Apartment Rents Fall as Crush of New Supply Hits Market by guimplen on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @04:47AM (#34980513)
A proper city has plenty of places for children to play even in its center. But maybe I'm just an outdated european.
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Re:Apartment Rents Fall as Crush of New Supply Hits Market by lynx23 on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @05:10AM (#34980660)
You seem to be living in a proper city, good for you. Move on, there is nothing to see here.
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Re:Apartment Rents Fall as Crush of New Supply Hits Market by pc86 on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @10:26AM (#34983378)
Most cities aren't proper by that definition. So congrats on being the exception but that's not really helpful to the broader discussion.
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Re:Apartment Rents Fall as Crush of New Supply Hits Market by simplotek on Thursday March 02, 2023 @03:53PM (#35001900)
> Most cities aren't proper by that definition.

OP is not the exception. I have at least two playgrounds in a 300m radius. Perhaps I'm lucky but I don't recall ever living in a place that didn't had at least a playground in walking distance.

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Re:Apartment Rents Fall as Crush of New Supply Hits Market by eyelidlessness on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @03:33AM (#34980059)
Might I strongly suggest, as a person who recognizes outsized emotional reactions to sound in myself… you may have misophonia? Maybe address that for yourself if that’s the case, because it’s bound to affect more than your relationship with families living in your midst.
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Re:Apartment Rents Fall as Crush of New Supply Hits Market by lynx23 on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @03:53AM (#34980200)
Are you suggesting that everyone who doesnt approve of aggravating families is actually ill? Seriously?
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Re:Apartment Rents Fall as Crush of New Supply Hits Market by eyelidlessness on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @11:09AM (#34983886)
I’m suggesting that there’s a name for feeling outsized emotional reactions to noise (whether particular sounds, or in general). I don’t know if that applies to you, but it helped me learning there is a word for it and that other people experience it too. In no way was I trying to suggest anything negative about you.
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Re:Apartment Rents Fall as Crush of New Supply Hits Market by selimthegrim on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @08:21AM (#34982074)
> bachelors and unmarried folks find it harder to rent.

Muslims as well

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