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Re:Rapid demise of 'Dilbert' is no surprise to those watching by dangus on Monday February 27, 2023 @08:53PM (#34964700)
Actually, the comic itself has more recently become more political and has been accused of being racist/bigoted. If you haven't been reading the strip since its heyday in the 90s you'd probably be none the wiser.

For example, it introduced its first black character for the sole purpose of wading into identity politics: https://boingboing.net/2022/05/08/dilbert-creator-introduces...

Separating art from artist is something that is easier or more difficult to do depending on the artist.

For someone like O.J. Simpson, the separation is quite clear. His football career predated and had no relation to his alleged infractions in his personal life. Plus, there's no real way to financially support a retired player. Going to the Buffalo Bills game today or watching old highlight clips doesn't financially benefit O.J.

For someone like Woody Allen, it's hard to ignore that his art that he directs and writes happens to include some pretty gross plot-lines, like in one his most critically acclaimed movies Manhattan where his 42 year old character dates a 17 year old.

Another "fun" fact, Woody Allen hit on the actress who played Tracy and invited her to stay with him in his hotel room: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariel_Hemingway#Personal_life

The fact that the general population was just sort of ignorant of how problematic this was doesn't really change the fact that Woody Allen is very obviously attracted to minors and that his actions were never okay.

So, really, for some of these people there is not much separation between art and the artist. Some are more of a blurred line. For example, arguably, the art of Harry Potter doesn't include much damning content, but many people have made connections between some details of the Wizarding World and the way the author's voice portrays them, and how problematic they might be in the context of her public opinions. I think this is why there's such a split on opinions on whether to continue to consume Harry Potter content amongst fans of her work.

For Scott Adams, it's clear to me that the artist is intruding on the art much more than J.K. Rowling ever intruded on her art. Adams has joined the right wing white nationalist cult and it leaks into the comic strips all the time. It's very much a political strip.

Let me finish off on the topic of "cancel culture." Let's say you walked into a candy store and the owner called you a shithead. You probably wouldn't buy candy from that candy store, right?

Well, Scott Adams did that to all Black people just now. You walk into his candy shop and you look a certain way, and he categorically dislikes you before you even say hello.

Scott Adams categorically called an entire group of people shitheads based on the color of their skin alone, not thinking twice about whether that group of people might be in charge of editorial decisions at newspapers or whether that group of people might be customers of his product.

The truth is, it's not very hard to treat everyone with respect and dignity regardless of their ethnicity or personal background. It's not hard to treat people the way you would like to be treated.

People like Scott Adams are actively going out of their way to hurt people's feelings, so they can't act like it's an injustice for their feelings and bank account to be hurt in return.

If boycotting assholes is cancel culture, long live cancel culture.

Re:Rapid demise of 'Dilbert' is no surprise to those watching by swatcoder on Monday February 27, 2023 @09:04PM (#34964758)
> This is why "cancel culture" is only "getting old" if you're in a privileged class that isn't affected by the bigotry.

Sorry, but that’s not a very constructive or honest way to discuss the topic.

While rooted in positive intent by a diverse community, there’s obviously a strong vein of white savior complex behind “cancel culture” and people outside of “privileged class” can in fact hold a variety of opinions on the topic themselves. It’s not universally beloved, even by the people it’s intended to serve. Is there a way to advocate for it while acknowledging the right of everyone to have their own experience and opinion of it?

Re:Rapid demise of 'Dilbert' is no surprise to those watching by dangus on Monday February 27, 2023 @09:38PM (#34964986)
I don't think white savior complex applies here.

This is an issue of business risk.

The truth is, white nationalists are mad that pop culture can't be openly bigoted in their favor anymore. And why can't it be openly bigoted? Because America is no longer over 85% white like it was in 1960. [1]

Instead, you're looking at a country with a diverse community, just like you mentioned.

So, when we're talking about "cancel culture," I think the practical application of the concept is really about business risk.

If I carry Scott Adams' comic strip, how many of my customers that he directly offended will cancel their subscription? How many of my employees will quit or complain? How much money will I lose? On the other side of the equation, what's the financial upside of keeping this comic strip in print?

That equation used to look different when all your customers and employees were part of a homogeneous ethnic group.

Conservatives make the argument that white people, usually the ones in cities who have interacted with lots of non-white people and know them to be normal people, are afflicted by "wokeism" and "white savior complex." Call it what you wish, at the end of the day customers with dollars don't want to buy shit from bigots.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_racial_and_ethnic_d...

Re:Rapid demise of 'Dilbert' is no surprise to those watching by ekianjo on Monday February 27, 2023 @09:32PM (#34964943)
> Actually, the comic itself has more recently become more political

It's partly because the workplace has also become a lot more politicized, in case you did not notice.

Re:Rapid demise of 'Dilbert' is no surprise to those watching by dangus on Monday February 27, 2023 @09:44PM (#34965024)
I disagree. The workplace merely recognizes the monetary value of not having issues like racism, harassment, and bigotry pushing out talent and hampering company performance.

As a business owner, effective DEI is proven to lead to better financial results. You can call that politics if you want, I call it business metrics.

https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/diversity-and-inc...