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Re:Two things about SOPA/PIPA and then I'll shut up by crazygringo on Saturday January 21, 2012 @07:53PM (#3495221)
Indeed... why isn't there an IIAA (Internet Industry Association of America), modelled along the same lines of the MPAA/RIAA?

Google, Facebook, etc. could be the main contributors, but smaller companies would donate too (there might be a very significant long tail).

It could lobby for everything Joel talks about.

Re:Two things about SOPA/PIPA and then I'll shut up by thebigshane on Saturday January 21, 2012 @09:07PM (#3495376)
I think that's a lot of trust being put into Google, Facebook, etc to not use this same lobby group to lobby for laws that would benefit them over smaller companies.
Re:Two things about SOPA/PIPA and then I'll shut up by adambarber on Saturday January 21, 2012 @08:14PM (#3495260)
More to the point, what's stopping Google from declaring war on the MPAA? I imagine a lot of money would be lost if Google just pulled every site belonging to a member of the MPAA from the search results.

Aside from a few people at the top of Google with a sense of restraint and fair play, if Google alone decided to ruin the movie industry, they could - quickly. Obviously an IIAA pays more respect to the current way of doing things, rather than just making a unilateral decree that the movie industry doesn't get to exist anymore if they won't extend the same courtesy to the tech industry.

Slightly less drastically, I wouldn't mind Google making a note in the SERPs about which members of Congress are in favor of censoring freedom of speech. A small note with that person's position on SOPA would be a handy tool to keep the public informed.

Re:Two things about SOPA/PIPA and then I'll shut up by zecho on Saturday January 21, 2012 @08:25PM (#3495280)
What's stopping Google is reasonable principals. They shouldn't censor the Internet, because that's stupid and against everything the blackout stood for. Where they can fight is in competing with Hollywood dollar for dollar by lobbying and funding campaigns.
Re:Two things about SOPA/PIPA and then I'll shut up by adambarber on Saturday January 21, 2012 @08:45PM (#3495326)
I agree that being reasonable is the reasonable thing to do. However, censorship cuts both ways, which I was trying to demonstrate with my earlier comment.

If playing the lobbying game works, then no reason not to play.

Re:Two things about SOPA/PIPA and then I'll shut up by ojbyrne on Saturday January 21, 2012 @10:36PM (#3495530)
s/principals/principles/
Re:Two things about SOPA/PIPA and then I'll shut up by zecho on Sunday January 22, 2012 @11:21AM (#3496870)
thanks.
Re:Two things about SOPA/PIPA and then I'll shut up by snprbob86 on Saturday January 21, 2012 @08:44PM (#3495323)
> what's stopping Google from declaring war on the MPAA

Google bends over backwards to make sure that their rankings are entirely algorithmic so that they can retain the moral high-ground and various legal protections. It would be insane for Google to jeopardize either of those things or to risk anti-competitive and anti-trust prosecution.

Re:Two things about SOPA/PIPA and then I'll shut up by pgeorgi on Sunday January 22, 2012 @03:53AM (#3496069)
So instead, it's time for googlebombing the sites out of the index? Might make more of an impact (longer-lasting, too) than the OpMegaupload DDoS.

Google can keep its moral highground, and the delisting is "for the people, by the people" ;-)

Re:Two things about SOPA/PIPA and then I'll shut up by anamax on Sunday January 22, 2012 @09:59AM (#3496670)
> Google bends over backwards to make sure that their rankings are entirely algorithmic so that they can retain the moral high-ground and various legal protections.

Do you really think that algorithms are necessarily neutral? (Hint: they're not. Consider a "hate speech" detector. It's easy to implement bias using "neutral" algorithms with "reasonable" decisions.)

Re:Two things about SOPA/PIPA and then I'll shut up by ericflo on Saturday January 21, 2012 @09:00PM (#3495361)
Google should never censor its search results. It would lose a lot of credibility if it did. However, perhaps it might choose not to sell ads to organizations that threaten the internet.
Re:Two things about SOPA/PIPA and then I'll shut up by bcrawl on Saturday January 21, 2012 @08:09PM (#3495252)
I support this notion. I dont think there is any current organization which deals with patent rights + free internet etc. There is EFF but no one takes it seriously. EFF is such a joke that Google autocomplete doesnt even find it even if you type EFF!

Patents stuff is too confusing for me, but the concept of ad space on popular websites to spread the voice of Joel/Internet would be awesome. I think Reddit will participate because they have been pretty devoted so far, definitely not Facebook though. I dont think they want any of this drama..... asusal.