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Re:Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone by cptskippy on Saturday February 25, 2023 @11:54PM (#34943160)
I was in the same boat with the base 1700. It likely just needs a TPM module. My ASRock Fatality (sp) motherboard had a port for a module.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/where-to-buy-tpm-2.0-for-w...

Win11's line in the sand requirements aren't nearly as "bad" as Vista/XP/ME in terms of disruption. Honestly I wish they'd gone a step further and required ECC support.

Re:Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone by sofixa on Sunday February 26, 2023 @04:09AM (#34944151)
> Honestly I wish they'd gone a step further and required ECC support.

That's a non-starter because Intel upsell ECC as an "enterprise"/"prosumer" feature and regular, non-high-end/workstation/server processors don't support ECC. Sadly Intel is still the CPU market leader, so that would have meant Win11 not being able to run on most existing hardware at launch.

Re:Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone by ClumsyPilot on Sunday February 26, 2023 @08:41AM (#34945458)
Well it would mean a serious kick in the rear for Intel, and delay window 11 adoption. I think Microsoft could do it, but they'd piss off a lot of people.
Re:Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone by cptskippy on Sunday February 26, 2023 @01:55PM (#34948223)
Yes, how different are Intel's consumer CPUs from their Enterprise? Is ECC disabled physically in their CPUs or is it simply a software limitation?

AMD's CPUs have ECC support but the motherboard manufacturers don't support it.

Intel has been shipping TPMs in CPUs for a while. That begs the question, is Intel dictating requirements to Microsoft or is Microsoft dictating them to Intel?

Re:Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone by ClumsyPilot on Sunday February 26, 2023 @08:44AM (#34945478)
> was in the same boat with the base 1700. It likely just needs a TPM module.

Oh dear, why is Microsoft upgrade assistant and documentation so misleading? I just got a new CPU!

Re:Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone by doubled112 on Sunday February 26, 2023 @08:53AM (#34945540)
I'm not sure they are.

I can go into the UEFI settings and enable fTPM on the system. It still doesn't make it see the system as supported.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/mi...

It is only 2nd gen Ryzen and up.

P.S. By reverse logic, I have disabled (f)TPM to block the upgrade on some machines.