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Re:We are dropping the Dilbert comic because of creator Scot... by trafficante on Saturday February 25, 2023 @04:47PM (#34940808)
Are we really this easily duped?

The entire EXPLICITLY STATED point of these /pol/ campaigns is to manipulate the media into acting as an engine of radicalization.

“It’s okay to be white” would have died on the vine right next to “Islam is right about women” if the media didn’t go into an amplification feeding frenzy.

Edit: and sure, the cat’s out of the bag and actual racists are probably using the phrase now. But clearly no lesson has been learned - ditching Scott Adams for supposedly making reprehensible racist remarks is going to absolutely set more than a few people down the path of radicalization when they look up what he said and see “it’s okay to be white”. I can only imagine the glee over on 4chan right now.

Re:We are dropping the Dilbert comic because of creator Scot... by acdha on Saturday February 25, 2023 @05:42PM (#34941203)
This is not the media going on a frenzy. This is Scott Adams knowingly misrepresenting a poll result as “see, black people are the real racists!” rather than “many black people have correctly learned who uses this slogan and why”. The only reason anyone is talking about it is because he’s trying to use it as a cover story, and the correct response is to recognize his true motives and ignore him.
Re:We are dropping the Dilbert comic because of creator Scot... by olivermarks on Saturday February 25, 2023 @08:15PM (#34942113)
There's no shortage of racists sadly, regardless of any ethnicity/skin color.

Local newspapers are dying, one of the few reasons the print editions still exist is for the comics section. Cancelling cartoons because of a podcast is commercial suicide, and so is amplifying idiotic stories about Scott Adams, FourChan, Q, 'the alt-right' (AKA the 'far right' presumably), 'Black Lives Matter' etc etc.

There is terrible black on asian violence in the bay area (where I live), I just saw video of a guy being hacked to death with a machete in San Francisco's tenderloin last month. Adams lives near Oakland, an extremely violent, gang dominated area. In the bay area you can watch fresh video on Twitter every day of black thugs breaking into cars, beating people up, retail theft at a massive scale, holding up restaurants at gunpoint and on and on.

This is all completely unacceptable and it's hard to reconcile the endless bleeding heart restorative justice, reparations for people with ancestors who were slaves, endless victim hustling in the same urban area. I suspect Adams was to a large extent influenced by 'lived experience', to co opt a progressive cliche.

Re:We are dropping the Dilbert comic because of creator Scot... by newaccount74 on Sunday February 26, 2023 @08:08AM (#34945233)
Honestly if you read Adams blog posts in the last few years, it's quite surprising his comic strip was still being published.

I'd expect an aging author to become wiser and more understanding, Adams was getting more and more radical and the segregationist comments were just the straw that broke the camels back.

Re:We are dropping the Dilbert comic because of creator Scot... by olivermarks on Sunday February 26, 2023 @11:36AM (#34946814)
Adams is a very successful book author as a well as being a syndicated cartoonist that has enticed a lot of people to buy newspaper subscriptions. The idea publishers would cancel him due to his blog and podcast opinions flies in the face of business logic.

Local California newspapers are already full of junk establishment syndicated news stories and woke oped pieces written by junior journalism graduates who have strong radical progressive activist views and agendas. Reader comments (if allowed) tell a story of dissatisfaction in these publications. There is less and less reason to buy them.

I think Dilbert is a terrific cartoon strip that punctures the pretense of large corporation human resources hubris. I don't care what the author of this cartoon strips views are. I'm not interested in what Charles Schultz (Peanuts) political views were either.

Re:We are dropping the Dilbert comic because of creator Scot... by newaccount74 on Sunday February 26, 2023 @01:41PM (#34948081)
The views of the author show through, though.

Recent strips are all about "woke millenials don't want to work" and other right wing facebook tropes.

20 years ago Dilbert strips were sometimes funny, the recent ones just aren't anymore.

Re:We are dropping the Dilbert comic because of creator Scot... by trieste92 on Saturday February 25, 2023 @10:30PM (#34942777)
> The only reason anyone is talking about it is because he’s trying to use it as a cover story

Why are people trying to make this guy sound clever and self aware? He sounds unhinged

Re:We are dropping the Dilbert comic because of creator Scot... by PuppyTailWags on Saturday February 25, 2023 @06:40PM (#34941602)
I have complicated feelings about alt-right trolling. Here's the problem: alt-right trolling tactics usually act against a marginalized group. People often react very reasonably against someone acting to marginalize an already vulnerable group. But even the act of trying to defend against said trolling is now itself "taking the bait", so the only things allies "should" do to "not take the bait" is to allow trolling people to continue punching down on minorities. There's no winning here.

For example: It was common for alt-right speakers to find and doxx trans people at universities they would be invited to. Of course, allies would try to protest these speakers coming to universities because they would doxx trans people at them. But trying to keep them off campus plays right into the "we're being oppressed, academia is a leftist hivemind hellscape" narrative that the very same doxxers try to spin. So the only option is to let them come on and doxx trans people? I don't really know. It's nasty.

Re:We are dropping the Dilbert comic because of creator Scot... by acdha on Saturday February 25, 2023 @06:50PM (#34941662)
A lot of this comes back to money. There’s a propaganda network measured in billions of dollars annually which reliably amplifies these messages, and I think that’s probably the angle to pursue. A lot of this stuff would stay on 4chan if people weren’t pouring money into broadcasting it, and many advertisers will cave if asked why they’re funding white nationalists.
Re:We are dropping the Dilbert comic because of creator Scot... by anigbrowl on Saturday February 25, 2023 @09:02PM (#34942336)
actual racists are probably using the phrase now

They've been doing it the entire time. There was no amplification feeding frenzy, but the racists have been patently forcing hte meme for something like 18 months with stickering, banner drops, coordinated shitposts etc.

going to absolutely set more than a few people down the path of radicalization

Who, the ultra-late adopters? Dilbert went on an anti-woke trajectory a few years ago.

Re:We are dropping the Dilbert comic because of creator Scot... by faeriechangling on Saturday February 25, 2023 @10:16PM (#34942704)
You are literally the amplifier. This obliviousness drives me nuts. Stop feeding the trolls.
Re:We are dropping the Dilbert comic because of creator Scot... by anigbrowl on Sunday February 26, 2023 @12:01AM (#34943198)
I think you need to go outside and touch grass.
Re:We are dropping the Dilbert comic because of creator Scot... by themitigating on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @09:27AM (#34969631)
You mean calling out bad behavior? This is how we make society a better place.
Re:We are dropping the Dilbert comic because of creator Scot... by SamBam on Monday February 27, 2023 @11:14AM (#34958125)
> when they look up what he said and see “it’s okay to be white”

But that's not all he said at all...

He said:

"Black America is a hate group"

"the best advice I would give to white people is to get the hell away from Black people. Just get the fuck away. Wherever you have to go, just get away. Because there’s no fixing this. This can’t be fixed."

"So that's what'd I did. I went to a neighborhood with a very low black population."

"I don’t think it makes any sense as a white citizen of America to try to help Black citizens anymore"

...pretending all he said was "It's ok to be white" is completely disingenuous.