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Re:Ask Dang: What tools do you use for moderating HN? by glass3 on Friday February 24, 2023 @01:44AM (#34921626)
My attempted reply to korroziya's now dead comment:

>For me, you disqualify your comment by using 'This.' and by using strong words that are borderline insults. To 'non-progressives' it may look like dissenting comments are downvoted but my guess is that people are just protecting the non-aggressive spirit of the site. HN needs far more moderation resources if the discourse descends into aggressive territory. To discuss controversial topics, non-mainstream arguments should be written as non-aggressively as OP's argument about overtone windows.

I am sure that without aggression, fair discussions about controversial topics can be held on HN. What I miss is a path to pass the knowledge about how to argue. My guess is that dang doesn't message korroziya and no user can reach him. People like korroziya learn to 'hold back'.

Re:Ask Dang: What tools do you use for moderating HN? by 41amxn41 on Friday February 24, 2023 @01:55AM (#34921688)
>non-aggresive spirit

It's more like passive-aggresive here. It's also harder to tell signal from noise if someone has to write a 500-word essay instead of saying "you're an idiot".

Re:Ask Dang: What tools do you use for moderating HN? by kilgnad on Friday February 24, 2023 @02:08AM (#34921781)
HN is loaded with passive aggressive shit to get around the rules.

Stuff like "It's so strange and puzzling to see someone act illogically when the reasoning is so obvious."

It's basically calling someone a dumbass^,

Re:Ask Dang: What tools do you use for moderating HN? by 41amxn41 on Friday February 24, 2023 @02:30AM (#34921941)
Exactly. It's unnatural, not to mention, boring.
Re:Ask Dang: What tools do you use for moderating HN? by Y_Y on Friday February 24, 2023 @02:26AM (#34921915)
Well bless your heart
Re:Ask Dang: What tools do you use for moderating HN? by bobleeswagger on Friday February 24, 2023 @02:22AM (#34921869)
> HN is loaded with passive aggressive shit to get around the rules.

It's almost like the rules are fostering an environment of self-censorship.

Re:Ask Dang: What tools do you use for moderating HN? by glass3 on Friday February 24, 2023 @04:10AM (#34922576)
How could that be improved? Allowing insults to prevent passive aggressiveness doesn't seem right.
Re:Ask Dang: What tools do you use for moderating HN? by kilgnad on Friday February 24, 2023 @04:01PM (#34930074)
Yeah my post is flagged by the typical myopic HN user. Anyway to answer your question passive aggressiveness should be called out. It should be flagged. You can't talk to people that way anymore than you can insult them directly.

What I think should be legal to say is hard statements. Like, "You're wrong." Or "what you said doesn't make sense. " You need these statements to express disagreement and I think spending effort to make it polite just derails the conversation for the sake of being polite.

But passive aggressiveness with the intent to refocus the subject of the conversation onto the speaker himself is a deliberate act of malice. That should be flagged.