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Re:Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood. by rdl on Friday January 20, 2012 @08:11PM (#3492136)
Sometime over the past year I went from thinking YouTube content was insignificant compared to Hollywood, to the point where I'd happily give up all broadcast/cable/DVD/Netflix content for YouTube type user generated content. I suspect this will be more widespread in a year or two more.
Re:Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood. by Steko on Friday January 20, 2012 @09:29PM (#3492351)
What's really needed is the next level of authoring tools. Here's the startup I'd do:

(1) buy up a near dead MMO, preferably one with impressively realistic character graphics.

(2) retool it as a machima authoring tool

(3) hook it into kinect for motion capture

(4) leverage the userbase to crowdsource additions to the 3D library.

With just this talented hobbyists and unfunded indy talents would begin to swamp Hollywood in an flood of "good enough" tv shows, shorts and full length films.

Re:Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood. by ohyes on Friday January 20, 2012 @09:47PM (#3492397)
I like this idea.

On the graphics end, it might be better to modify an FPS engine, like the DOOM3 engine. You will get better graphics, and if you are simply generating a TV show, you don't really need the scalability that an MMO provides. And the graphics for most failing MMOS are not that great. You could distribute the machima via a youtube like service that is specific for machima.

You might even get a completely new form of media, because it is not necessary to distribute a machima as a straight up video.

Viewing it could be like 'ghost' mode in an FPS, viewer gets to pick the angle from which the drama is watched.

If you read 'Count Zero', one of the ideas there is that going online into a 3D chat didn't really catch on until there were realistic human faces. I think this is a really insightful concept. It will be important to spend a lot of time on getting faces just right, so that humans react to them in the same way that they react to actors.

Looking at a human face is a really big part of TV viewing for a lot of people. We are conditioned to be attracted to them.

Re:Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood. by thristian on Friday January 20, 2012 @10:30PM (#3492491)
If you read 'Count Zero', one of the ideas there is that going online into a 3D chat didn't really catch on until there were realistic human faces.

One of the characters in Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson mentions that accurate modelling of human facial expressions was a key component in the success of that world's VR environment.

Fictional anecdotes are even less like data than real-life anecdotes, but I think it says something that when humans try to annotate text with emotions, faces are the closest graphical analogue:

    :) :( O_o
Re:Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood. by rdl on Saturday January 21, 2012 @01:27AM (#3492798)
Yeah, this would be like a 3d version of xtranormal. Being able to get voice work done by actors over the Internet or use text to speech, too. Maybe you could do chroma key work at home or in local studios too, and progressively upgrade production values over time if a given show or series works out well.
Re:Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood. by phaus on Friday January 20, 2012 @10:38PM (#3492515)
This is a great idea too. I replied above but I had forgotten that Id software open sourced the Doom 3 engine.
Re:Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood. by phaus on Friday January 20, 2012 @10:30PM (#3492492)
Keep an eye out for All Points Bulletin's second death. They spend over $100 million dollars developing the world's most advanced character design system and forgot to build an actual game around it. The original developer had to shut the game down after the first month or so, but then someone else bought it for a fraction of the development costs and reworked it into a Free To Play game. By all accounts, the gameplay is still absolutely terrible. Should only be a matter of time before they shut it down again.

There are a few reasons why I think this MMO would make an awesome engine for this startup.

1. The character customization system includes the ability to design clothing and tattoos for the character. If you don't like the wardrobe included in the game, you can design your own.

2. There is an equally extensive toolset to modify your character's physical appearance.

3. The customization was a main selling point for this game. People were supposed to be able to sell the clothing they designed in game and even exchange the virtual currency for more play time. This emphasis on user creativity means that the average APB player is probably more likely to begin playing with the intent to create their own content.

4. The studio that now owns the game didn't have to eat a $100 million loss, so they don't have to get a huge amount of money if they sell the game again. This combined with the fact that it failed once, and might again would ensure that there wouldn't be any competitors.

P.S. Another possible solution would be to just license the engine to create your own game. This is a common practice in the game industry and is usually far cheaper than trying to purchase a complete game.

Re:Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood. by MrScruff on Friday January 20, 2012 @10:25PM (#3492476)
Great idea, I can't see anyone paying to watch Avatar 2 when they can see someone overdubbing their Skyrim avatar with Battlestar Galactica fanfic.
Re:Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood. by moshthepitt on Saturday January 21, 2012 @08:19AM (#3493499)
I live in Kenya. The quality of the local stuff we see on TV and in movie theaters is still a long way behind other places. To the point where more than 95% of what we consume (and enjoy) is foreign.

I think if someone could you use what you are suggestion to produce really well written movies/series for markets such as our would be very successful.

It would be: 1. Local 2. Better than most other local stuff.

You could theoretically make a lot of money going to various countries such as Kenya and making quality stuff based on the local culture etc.

You would also be profitable while gaining experience/momentum to later launch into other more developed markets.

Makes sense?

Re:Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood. by jamesgatz on Friday January 20, 2012 @09:58PM (#3492421)
I like youtube quite a bit, but if someone told me I could either: a) have unlimited youtube forever or b) re-experience my first viewing of a favorite film (say, No Country for Old Men), I would always choose b.

This is likely my own personal bias, but great youtube is great entertainment. Great cinema is magic.

Re:Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood. by Natsu on Saturday January 21, 2012 @04:38AM (#3493150)
One's enjoyment of something is not based solely on the work itself, though it's certainly one of the largest components. One's enjoyment of a work is also based on how it makes you feel, e.g. nostalgia, current mood, or even who you're with (e.g. a special song shared by two people).

For some of us, Hollywood is actively destroying our ability to enjoy their works. When your favorite film's magic is on the wrong side of 20 minutes of unskippable trailers for old movies that sucked, the magic is gone.

Re:Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood. by mtgentry on Saturday January 21, 2012 @12:35AM (#3492715)
This. I'm hard pressed to think of online content that is as transcendent as a great film.
Re:Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood. by bambax on Saturday January 21, 2012 @04:42AM (#3493159)
Really? I've never seen anything of value on Youtube, but I never tried very hard.

If you're right, it means what's needed is a way to find good videos on Youtube.

Some combination of Reddit + a personalized recommendation engine (ala Netflix) plugged into Youtube. I would use that constantly.

Re:Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood. by ericflo on Friday January 20, 2012 @08:20PM (#3492163)
And it appears it will come full circle, as late last year YouTube announced that it was going to start producing original content: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/29/idUS38163096092011...
Re:Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood. by rdl on Friday January 20, 2012 @08:45PM (#3492224)
The content I like is pretty much cat videos (yeah) and semi professional/prosumer content, like firearms, diving, etc training and product reviews. There is generally inbuilt revenue models for doing reviews or instructional video, so it justifies spending up to a few hundred per hour of finished footage.
Re:Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood. by thomaspun on Friday January 20, 2012 @09:36PM (#3492373)