Google Stopping Coding Competitions

Re:Google Stopping Coding Competitions by sbrother on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @05:50PM (#34904179)

One thing that complicates this is that Google (and probably the rest of FAANG but I don’t have experience there) is happy to severely downlevel people versus the positions they could get elsewhere. They also aggressively cut compensation if you live outside of SF/NYC. I’ve done a couple stints as an L4 SWE at Google and it is one of the worst paying places I’ve worked - but that’s because I’m comparing it to larger scope roles at smaller companies. Whereas yeah Staff or Director at Google is pretty hard to compete with.

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Re:Google Stopping Coding Competitions by vineyardmike on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @11:30PM (#34906776)

> I’ve done a couple stints as an L4 SWE at Google

I’m curious. Does this mean you’ve left Google and returned multiple times at the same level while having better jobs elsewhere?

Not to be critical but why? (I ask because I’m considering returning to old places down/equileveled after being laid off somewhere and curious your reasons)

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Re:Google Stopping Coding Competitions by moira11 on Thursday February 23, 2023 @03:54AM (#34908378)

Internships? There are some people who spent every summer in college as Google interns

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Re:Google Stopping Coding Competitions by vineyardmike on Thursday February 23, 2023 @10:04AM (#34911462)

L4 at Google is basically “mid level” aka you’ve proven yourself past a college hire but you’re not a senior engineer with lots of experience.

So doing a few jobs as an L4 is what’s unexpected because after experience at another role, and additional knowledge gained, etc ideally they’d be able to return as L5+.

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Re:Google Stopping Coding Competitions by sbrother on Monday February 27, 2023 @01:32AM (#34953688)

Yep, that’s exactly what I did. I came back during COVID (after leaving to move away from an office five years prior) and chose to return at the level I left at rather than deal with leetcode interviews. It was a rough personal time for me (two kids under five during COVID daycare shutdowns) and I wanted the stability/benefits of the big G, and didn’t want to take the risk of an interview that I didn’t have time/energy to prepare for.

I feel a little bit bad because I very much used their benefits and then left again to go to a more appropriately leveled job. But going back to L4 at a megacorp was kind of mind numbing, and the compensation got so bad after the stock drop and location based pay cuts that I couldn’t justify staying any longer.

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