Albanian gangs have set up their own CCTV networks to spy on cops

Re:Albanian gangs have set up their own CCTV networks to spy... by qikInNdOutReply on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @09:38AM (#34881670)

The future is active in ukraine. Take them out with a drone, for cost of a gun, you dont even have to be nearby.

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Re:Albanian gangs have set up their own CCTV networks to spy... by wongarsu on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @10:46AM (#34882415)

Automation might be viable in some places in the Americas where cartels effectivley have full control over a region, or for anyone else in a sufficiently remote region who wants to achieve something simialr. Everywhere else you would want to choose your targets carefully. It's easier for police to turn a blind eye if you don't appear to be waging war against them.

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Re:Albanian gangs have set up their own CCTV networks to spy... by qikInNdOutReply on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @11:10AM (#34882744)

Thats were you wrong, that a faction has to be defined to wage a war. Its just another city were some unknown party carried solar charged boxes on the roof, that dislodge drones on siren sound or whatever. The idea, that there is a "war" declaration or even somebody there, is part of the past.

You could hire gig workers to place the dronepackages a "pr" gag allover town. There is not a need for flags, territory or other outdated concepts. Just attrition and correlation.. of wear and tear on civilization

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Re:Albanian gangs have set up their own CCTV networks to spy... by userulluipeste on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @02:16PM (#34885572)

"There is not a need for flags, territory or other outdated concepts."

Any conflict has reasons behind it, as it is just another enterprise that consumes resources for expected rewards. Given the practical needs to manage the said consumed resources, even in guerilla style warfare the conflicts have to have limits (i.e. be contained to a territory). The territory, which these conflicts are waged on, can be and is sooner or later linked to (at least suspected) interested parties. The flags are basically just means to identify a given interested party once it grows past the Dunbar’s number. I do not say that there aren't concepts out there that have little to no practical use (say, an anthem, or a motto), I'm just saying that your list outdated concepts were not good examples.

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Re:Albanian gangs have set up their own CCTV networks to spy... by qikInNdOutReply on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @02:42AM (#34892815)

The reason being that non-state actors, who want to become state actors thrive in a chaotic environment. Coporations and non suit wearing gangsters who can rely on there own power monopolies as long as they are unchallenged by the state, might push such a environment via third parties, to be "left alone".

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Re:Albanian gangs have set up their own CCTV networks to spy... by Teever on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @12:14PM (#34883692)

Yeah, it's going to be fascinating to see what sort of practices make their way back from Ukraine.

It will be interesting to see the police response to the next abusive cop put paid leave being killed or maimed by a drone released by vigilantes.

How about a scenario where police officers are sousveilled by large, anonymous groups to build datasets that can be used to apply pressure to law enforcement and their union groups when they attempt to take more power by demanding larger police budgets.

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