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Re:US food additives banned in EU. Expert says "almost certa... by robertlagrant on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @06:14AM (#34879636)
This is tricky, though. Where does it stop? If I really thought about what's natural, I wouldn't expect to find food at all.
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Re:US food additives banned in EU. Expert says "almost certa... by thfuran on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @06:56AM (#34880027)
Not even fruit?
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Re:US food additives banned in EU. Expert says "almost certa... by aperson_hello on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @07:49AM (#34880519)
Humans have modified most fruits to be nearly unrecognizable compared to their original forms!
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Re:US food additives banned in EU. Expert says "almost certa... by uoaei on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @08:01AM (#34880624)
There's a difference between phenotypic and genotypic modifications.
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Re:US food additives banned in EU. Expert says "almost certa... by aperson_hello on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @08:52AM (#34881121)
Neither is "natural"

And a whole lot of fruit is genotypically modified as well through various means!!

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Re:US food additives banned in EU. Expert says "almost certa... by uoaei on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @09:17PM (#34905879)
Well, phenotypic selection is natural in the inevitable, Darwinian sense. Genotypic selection is not because "nature" can't observe genes directly, only their expressions.
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Re:US food additives banned in EU. Expert says "almost certa... by bruce343434 on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @07:33AM (#34880371)
Do you one better: what is "natural"? Are beaver dams natural? If so, are human buildings similarly natural? If so, are chemicals made by humans natural? Wasps and bees make a sort of paper, is that natural? How about human paper?

Humans ARE nature. What we build IS nature. Or do you think beavers look at their dams and buildings and go "that shit is unnatural".

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Re:US food additives banned in EU. Expert says "almost certa... by robertlagrant on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @12:01PM (#34883500)
That's my point.
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Re:US food additives banned in EU. Expert says "almost certa... by permo-w on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @11:47AM (#34984513)
sorry for the late reply, but I didn't mention naturality. that would be far too vague. deadly nightshade is natural. bull sharks are natural. ebola is natural. et cetera.

additives is still a bit vague, but at least that generally fits what I'm aiming for. if it wouldn't be in the food if you made it at home, then that's an additive. no need for "natural" to come into it

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