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Re:Seattle could become the first city to ban caste discrimi... by drewrv on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @12:33AM (#34877100)
What is Redmond or the rest of the Eastside doing to help homeless people that Seattle has failed to do?
Re:Seattle could become the first city to ban caste discrimi... by peanuty1 on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @01:20AM (#34877408)
Eastside is tougher on crime, more conservative, and actually enforces laws frequently unlike Seattle, which is more progressive and extremely soft on crime.

A man bashed in the head of a female Amazon software engineer in Seattle and last I checked, they were considering letting him go free.

Re:Seattle could become the first city to ban caste discrimi... by drewrv on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @02:12AM (#34877777)
I asked what they’re doing to help homeless people on the Eastside.

If you think crime and punishment are related somehow then please be more explicit as to how that helps because I don’t follow.

Re:Seattle could become the first city to ban caste discrimi... by schemester on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @05:34AM (#34879329)
Being homeless is better when there’s less crime.
Re:Seattle could become the first city to ban caste discrimi... by drewrv on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @12:17PM (#34883723)
"Tough on crime" policies don't actually lead to less crime. If they did, the US would be among the safest countries on the planet.

Seattle, which is "soft on crime", is a relatively safe city with lower rates of violent crime per capita than Phoenix, Des Moines, Denver, Corpus Christi, and more. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b...

But getting back to my original question, I seriously doubt "tough on crime" policies in Redmond were implemented to help the homeless. More likely, they were implemented to keep poor people away.

My theory is that most people complaining about homelessness in cities like Seattle don't actually care about the homeless people. What they care about is that they have to see homelessness. So long as homelessness isn't visible then it's not a problem and whether that's done through charity or relocation or incarceration is irrelevant.

But I hope I'm wrong! I'd like to believe people aren't that cruel, so if Redmond has a solution that is compassionate and helpful I would genuinely love to know what they're doing.

Re:Seattle could become the first city to ban caste discrimi... by dahfizz on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @07:45AM (#34894673)
These statistics are fundamentally untrustworthy. Nobody reports crimes if they know that the police and the DA don't care.
Re:Seattle could become the first city to ban caste discrimi... by drewrv on Thursday February 23, 2023 @02:33AM (#34907878)
Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter is a pretty reliable metric, since police get called and they actually have to show up when there's a dead body.

Seattle ranks 77th when you sort by that column!