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Re:The Philosophy of Computer Science by Animats on Monday February 20, 2023 @04:57PM (#34873497)
No, it was bigger than that. There were AI startups in the 1980s. They all went bust. Expert systems were just not very useful. Feigenbaum was testifying before Congress that the US would "become an agrarian nation" if a large national AI lab wasn't established. Japan had a "Fifth Generation" project, trying to do AI with Prolog. All that stuff hit the upper limit of what you can do with that technology, and it wasn't a very high upper limit.

AI was a tiny field in those days. Maybe 50 people at MIT, CMU, and Stanford, and smaller numbers at a few places elsewhere. No commercial products that were any good.

Re:The Philosophy of Computer Science by jfoutz on Monday February 20, 2023 @05:22PM (#34873750)
Doesn't the post office still use the handwriting detectors to automatically route mail? Aren't those from the 80's? That's pretty much all before my time.

It seems like, AI research produced some fantastic results, but those systems were quickly relabeled to not be AI. Like, win at chess.

Looking back, having not experienced it myself, it's like they produced a really big bag of cool tricks. But you're not going to be doing much searching in 640k of ram. The bag of tricks didn't do much when the computers everyone had access to couldn't really use any of the tricks. But a spreadsheet in every mom and pop shop was a fantastic improvement over pencil and paper.

Re:The Philosophy of Computer Science by galaxyLogic on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @12:11AM (#34876936)
> systems were quickly relabeled to not be AI. Like, win at chess.

Right, some things came out of it but progress was slow in the more general areas. Still there was progress but hyper had to die, it was time to come back to the planet and do some database-stuff.

Re:The Philosophy of Computer Science by bambataa on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @03:29PM (#34902150)
> Japan had a "Fifth Generation" project, trying to do AI with Prolog. All that stuff hit the upper limit of what you can do with that technology, and it wasn't a very high upper limit.

What was the limiting factor of the expert system approach? Something like the size of the search space or that the number of rules you’d have to write was just infeasibly large?