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Re:B2B startup will stop innovating the day you give power t... by singleshot_ on Monday February 20, 2023 @09:01AM (#34868120)
Imagine feeling qualified to write this article without knowing the difference between a project manager and a product manager. Imposter syndrome indeed. Thinking you are the correct person to evaluate a “PM” without knowing what half the letters mean is pretty amazing, leaving us to wonder what would happen if this person ever were to encounter a program manager.
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Re:B2B startup will stop innovating the day you give power t... by llamaLord on Monday February 20, 2023 @03:59PM (#34872824)
Let's be fair here... I consider myself a pretty proficient Product Manager and even I would struggle to tell you what the Program Manager in our Org is actually meant to do.

Don't get me wrong, they do a lot and it's all valuable. But even they can't tell me what their fundamental role responsibility is hahaha.

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Re:B2B startup will stop innovating the day you give power t... by singleshot_ on Monday February 20, 2023 @05:36PM (#34873874)
On the other hand you’re not out there writing slam pieces on project managers, so I don’t think your lack of clarity around these terms is causing anyone any heartburn. And yeah these terms are a little under-differentiated in some shops. How I learned it [0]:

Project manager handles a discrete undertaking with a beginning and an end that falls outside whatever your org considers “ongoing operations.”

Program manager handles a portfolio of interrelated projects. If a lot of projects are failing and you want a single throat to choke, the program manager might be a good person to replace.

Product manager seems like it could be interpreted as kind of like a program manager (for a large, complex set of inter related projects) or a project manager (if there’s only one project) except that the organization’s ongoing operations include the creation and development of the product, instead of the product being a single event/discrete undertaking.

Source: read PMBOK decades ago

[0]: maybe others who learned differently can chime in? Doesn’t seem like this terminology is universal.

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