I Still ‘Lisp’ (and You Should Too)

Re:I Still ‘Lisp’ (and You Should Too) by owl57 on Sunday February 19, 2023 @07:31PM (#34863486)

I feel like there may be more Emacs Lisp being written recently than other Lisps and prose about Lisp combined.

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Re:I Still ‘Lisp’ (and You Should Too) by convolvatron on Sunday February 19, 2023 @08:21PM (#34863848)

which is a terrible shame and a lesson. of the 10 or so lisp like languages i've used extensively, elisp is by far the worst. it succeeds because it interfaces with something important, and its carried along everywhere.

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Re:I Still ‘Lisp’ (and You Should Too) by asyd on Sunday February 19, 2023 @09:03PM (#34864144)

I agree, but I'm grateful that it exists.

After much searching for the perfect languages and perfect tools (while using emacs as a simple text editor), it finally dawned on me that Emacs itself is as close as I'd get to a lisp machine right here in my own back yard. A lisp machine that sits quite nicely on top of linux/unix and plays very nicely with it.

There's much that I love about the lisp world, and the author does a great job of articulating the reasons why. There's also much that I love about the unix philosophy. Emacs is a bridge between these two worlds that I love, and I'm old enough now not to give a shit (or need to give a shit) what the rest of the world is doing. This is home.

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Re:I Still ‘Lisp’ (and You Should Too) by pxc on Sunday February 19, 2023 @09:04PM (#34864156)

It's the lesson of JavaScript as well, famously.

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Re:I Still ‘Lisp’ (and You Should Too) by throwawaysalome on Sunday February 19, 2023 @09:50PM (#34864412)

which is a terrible shame and a lesson

What's the lesson? That a text editor's extension language needs the strong concurrency and immutability models of a Clojure or sbcl? Getting emacs to sit and roll over doesn't exactly require an industrial grade language.

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Re:I Still ‘Lisp’ (and You Should Too) by jimbokun on Sunday February 19, 2023 @11:50PM (#34865013)

It reflects the beauty of the Emacs design, Taft something written decades ago is still being extended today to completely new use cases, because of the dynamic and flexible Lisp engine interacting with the C core.

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Re:I Still ‘Lisp’ (and You Should Too) by danuker on Sunday February 19, 2023 @08:21PM (#34863850)

> more Emacs Lisp being written recently

Do you mean since hitting rock bottom in June 2021?

https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&plat...

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Re:I Still ‘Lisp’ (and You Should Too) by ravi-delia on Sunday February 19, 2023 @09:11PM (#34864185)

Is this the best marker of Elisp being written? Perhaps I don't get what this is analyzing, but I suspect that it is the newcomers that write the least Elisp, and my impression is that packages are popping up and updating much quicker as of late

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Re:I Still ‘Lisp’ (and You Should Too) by rwilson4 on Sunday February 19, 2023 @10:16PM (#34864561)

That's me! My primary language is python, but after that I write more elisp than anything else.

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