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Re:Leaked files reveal reputation-management firm’s deceptiv... by O__________O on Friday February 17, 2023 @11:32AM (#34836777)
Super common tactic used by any entity with enough resources that is unable to directly stop the information from being spread.

Here’s a notable example:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/26/mesmerising...

Re:Leaked files reveal reputation-management firm’s deceptiv... by itronitron on Friday February 17, 2023 @12:44PM (#34837803)
It seems like that would also explain a lot of Elon Musk's antics, although that may be giving him too much credit.
Re:Leaked files reveal reputation-management firm’s deceptiv... by O__________O on Friday February 17, 2023 @01:21PM (#34838316)
Do you have any notable examples of Elon doing keyword bombing, media washing, reputation laundering, etc?
Re:Leaked files reveal reputation-management firm’s deceptiv... by itronitron on Friday February 17, 2023 @01:41PM (#34838600)
You mean other than buying Twitter?
Re:Leaked files reveal reputation-management firm’s deceptiv... by JohnFen on Friday February 17, 2023 @02:05PM (#34838872)
Let's be fair to Musk on this. He didn't want to buy Twitter. He was playing games and ended up trapping himself into it.
Re:Leaked files reveal reputation-management firm’s deceptiv... by phs318u on Friday February 17, 2023 @03:40PM (#34840243)
So you’re saying he’s an idiot?

Not disagreeing, it’s just an interesting argument to make about a supposedly genius billionaire.

Re:Leaked files reveal reputation-management firm’s deceptiv... by JohnFen on Friday February 17, 2023 @03:45PM (#34840299)
I don't think he's an idiot, but I equally don't think he's shown any signs of being a genius.
Re:Leaked files reveal reputation-management firm’s deceptiv... by Red_Leaves_Flyy on Friday February 17, 2023 @10:51PM (#34843700)
I’ll say it. Elon Musk is an idiot. Are his goons going to black bag me? Will his reputation managers show up in this thread with their sock puppets to “control the narrative” which is that daddy Elon is a self made billionaire who definitely didn’t benefit from his daddies Zambian emerald mine (which definitely never used forced labor, slaves, or children)! He’s also a huge fan of labor unions and never violates labor laws or fires organizers. Elon’s also definitely not cozy with other fascistic billionaires, the trumps, etc. I’m bored, this is a good stopping point.
Re:Leaked files reveal reputation-management firm’s deceptiv... by zo1 on Friday February 17, 2023 @01:46PM (#34838662)
What's ironic is they're doing the opposite of what they claim Elon Musk is doing. So they randomly inject Elon Musk into a conversation about this topic to add that association. Imagine the insanity if bings ChatGPT got a hold of this thread as truth.

Oops, I may have dragged ChatGPT into it now too.

Re:Leaked files reveal reputation-management firm’s deceptiv... by Pyramus on Friday February 17, 2023 @01:49PM (#34838699)
Not the expert on this, but Tesla whistle and Tesla shorts come to mind immediately. There are more subtle ones, e.g. the Tesla respirators right when Covid hit.

This was all before Twitter of course.

Re:Leaked files reveal reputation-management firm’s deceptiv... by houseinthesky on Friday February 17, 2023 @04:10PM (#34840621)
I think Tesla shorts was just him having a laugh at the investors shorting Tesla and showing confidence in the company. It increased media coverage of, and popular discussion about, the number of Tesla shares sold short. It wasn't about hiding or suppressing it, it was about showing that he wasn't concerned and was in some sense, "standing up to" the people predicting Tesla's demise.
Re:Leaked files reveal reputation-management firm’s deceptiv... by RC_ITR on Friday February 17, 2023 @02:10PM (#34838938)
https://www.thecut.com/2022/07/elon-musk-tweet-no-sex-ages.h...

Two months after being accused of sexual harassment by a flight attendant.

Re:Leaked files reveal reputation-management firm’s deceptiv... by mherdeg on Friday February 17, 2023 @01:21PM (#34838313)
Is the idea here that if you search for [Boris Johnson bus] you'll find results about his supposed hobby instead of the "let's fund the NHS" bus?

Reminds me of the headcanon that Disney released "Frozen" so when you search for [Disney frozen] you find the movie instead of the stories about Walt Disney and cryopreservation.

Re:Leaked files reveal reputation-management firm’s deceptiv... by O__________O on Friday February 17, 2023 @01:24PM (#34838371)
Correct, here are the related Wikipedia pages for these type of media tactics, which are commonly called Google bombing, whitewashing campaigns, reputation laundering, etc:

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_bombing

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_(censorship)

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Reputation_laundering

Re:Leaked files reveal reputation-management firm’s deceptiv... by zpeti on Friday February 17, 2023 @02:01PM (#34838845)
What’s interesting about the Boris bus is that NHS funding has increased by way more than what was promised since then.

Yet it’s somehow still held up as a lie. The NHS gets something like 30-40% more funding since brexit.

Re:Leaked files reveal reputation-management firm’s deceptiv... by cesaref on Friday February 17, 2023 @02:21PM (#34839061)
I don't think you're quite right. There are budgets and projections here - https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/projects/nhs-in-a-nutshell/nhs-...

If we take 2016 and compare against 2023 for NHS budget, we see a figure of 124bn compared to a projected 152bn for this year.

If we use the bank of england inflation calculator (https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/in...)

It says 124bn in 2016 would be the equivalent of 155bn in 2023.

So, we're currently funding the NHS less today than we did in 2016 in real terms. The Brexit bus suggested an additional 18bn per year could be made available for the NHS. If this was the case, this would work out as an additional 22bn with inflation.

Anyhow, lies, damn lies and statistics :)

Re:Leaked files reveal reputation-management firm’s deceptiv... by philjohn on Friday February 17, 2023 @02:24PM (#34839093)
When you include the £37bn for test and trace, and £££ for vaccine rollout, yes, but that's somewhat disingenuous (and one could argue done by the Government to hoodwink).

The other oft-trotted lie is that the NHS is "awash with middle managers!" when the manager to frontline staff ratio is far lower than in comparable private sector companies.

Plainly speaking, the NHS is short on doctors and nurses, short on beds, and downstream services like care homes are not numerous enough, leading to bed blocking. It's also not had funding to keep up with an ageing population. Far less money is spent on the NHS than on private healthcare + medicare and medicaid in the US, and less per person than comparable EU countries.